Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[hartiberlin]

Lol this is indeed strange. The anomaly is back with that model. I even changed the pin joints with two rods and get the same numbers. Increased the accuracy and also get the same numbers. I'm clueless whether it's another wm2D quirk or the real deal. I'm going to do some force analysis to have an idea of the forces that are involved.

Attached is again a slightly tweaked model with energy calculation and more round up masses. At impact the cop is 2.2 or about 230% overunity.

Stefan even at 0.1 elasticity it gives overunity. If it doesn't just increase the mass of the spoke  .

xnonix_rueda_overunityV2.wm2d

Can you explain this xnonix_rueda_overunityV2.wm2d
a bit more ?

How did you model this and how did you set the calculation display boxes in there ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[broli]

Can you explain this xnonix_rueda_overunityV2.wm2d
a bit more ?

How did you model this and how did you set the calculation display boxes in there ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Lol I was quite surprised you mentioned that as this is an ancient model that once got posted on this forum. So please ignore it. I will change the post with the correct model.

[hartiberlin]

Lol I was quite surprised you mentioned that as this is an ancient model that once got posted on this forum. So please ignore it. I will change the post with the correct model.

Yes, I still remember it, but wasit ever validated, that it really worked with this overunity factor ?

[broli]

Yes, I still remember it, but wasit ever validated, that it really worked with this overunity factor ?

Nope it was heavily flawed. I was still a newbie back then.

[Omnibus]

Well, I guess there is no working solution for the egg shaped Abeling wheel.
Also if using elliptical pathes it just does not work.
It just comes down to keel itself and comes to a stillstand,
which is predicted by normal gravity science.


Maybe he has hidden in his patent, why he uses 2 wheels instead of one.
This could have an effect of transfering weights from one wheel to the other
or something simular.

Why would he otherwise use 2 wheels if one could also do it ??

I guess this is his secret if his 2 wheel devic really works.

Regards, Stefan.

I'm not sure about that. Until I see a rigorous solution to this problem it isn't evident to me at all that there isn't a path which will ensure the mentioned non-equality. Seems there's something overlooked in these devices or deliberately withheld because of various social reasons. All is within classical mechanics, nothing fancy, but either overlooked or deliberately withheld and not pursued when found. As to why two wheels, well, maybe because if it's one wheel it will infringe on other patents or won't be novel since it resembles numerous well-known constructions, nonworking as they may be. Of course, I don't deny that he may be hiding something as most patentees do so that they can sell it as a trade secret. First, however, we have to find a rigorous answer to the obvious problem with the egg-shaped groove, I think, and then pursue the rest.

Thus, we already have in this thread two clearly defined problems for mathematicians versed in calculations in mechanics. These problems may be considered part of theoretical physics despite their practical aspect.