Please, Please, look at this video!

[broli]

Butch you will learn that Vidar on this forum can be a thorn in your eye.

[Low-Q]

See this new video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LOkMsh9dqk

You forget that the magnetic field is stronger within a shorter range when the magnets are together. Move the bar 1cm (1cm is just an example) up away from the magnets when they are apart, and do the same when the magnets are together. When the magnets are together the magnetic flux affecting the bar will dissappear sooner, as there is a shorter distance between the magnets and the magnetic flux will therfor sooner jump over to its neighbour instead of having a grip on the bar when the bar moves away.
However, when the magnets are apart, the magnetic flux will not let go the bar so soon, as there is a longer "jump" to the other magnet it will still try to use the bar to close the magnetic loop. So the grip on the bar will still remain quite much 1cm away.

So the total energy spent to lift the bar is the same in both cases. Therfor no OU.

Br.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

I believe you are wrong on every point, but thanks again for the input.
Regards,
Butch

Because you have moved the force from being in line with the pull direction, to angular to the pull direction. Moving an object angular to a force does not require force to move. You can use lots of force to stretch a rubberband. But if you try to move your hand sideways, that sideways movement does not require force even if the rubberband is stretched to its maximum.

When the magnets are alone, the force is in line with the direction you want to pull apart. Therfor it is harder to pull them apart without the steelbars. But pulling the steel bars away from the magnets is hard. That simple.

br.

Vidar

[broli]

Vidar, is there no boundary to your ignorance? Are all the experiments that Butch has shown just a white screen to you? It's experimentally and software wise proven that this concept works. But maybe you want to become the employ of the month at your disinfo company.

[broli]

Butch here's the double torque version.

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/exvid55V2.avi

Edit: A few seconds after I made this post I realised this gives exactly the same torque because they both move relatively away from each other now so the torque gets divided by two. Unless I'm mistaken.