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[X00013]

Question, is the ultimate power source coming from heat or coldness? ( B vs. H ) , seems like the coldness rules, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31068574/

[IronShell3d]

@ Ironshell3d,  so how do I build it?

Hi X00013,

Build what?

IronShell3d

[IronShell3d]

Question, is the ultimate power source coming from heat or coldness? ( B vs. H ) , seems like the coldness rules, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31068574/

Hi X00013,

All the energy in the universe that we know of was created by / during the Big Bang.

All we now do is to tap into various energy storage structures (normally hydrocarbon based, a bit of nuclear and a very small amount of real time solar derived energy (wind / PV)) that the original energy formed into and in the end turn that released energy into desired work and then into heat.

I'm about tapping the stored Iron atom's 3d shell energy that resides in the 4 unpaired spinning electrons that create the magnetic field we associate with a magnet. No OU here, just tapping a unconventional energy source.

Can you make a "motor" or a non moving device to tap that energy store? Yup, but not the way most of the inventors here are trying to do. You see they do not understand the nature of the energy source they are trying to get at. I'm trying to fix that lack of understanding and provide some guide lines along the way.

I have already given you thought experiments (which are easy to replicate) which show you can access the energy stored in the 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons of each Iron atom of a magnet to generate heat.

IronShell3d

[newbie123]

Hi NewBie123,

You need to ask yourself why a changing magnetic field density will cause an outer shell copper atom electron to leave it's orbit and move to take up a place in the outer shell of a nearby copper atom.

Changing magnetic  fields will induce an electric  current in wire   ...  That's just the way nature is.  Without this feature we'd have no electricity.   

Why will it not do this with a non changing magnetic field. Why must the field density change?

Lets try this analogy...      Say you have a puddle (the copper wire)  and a stick (the magnetic field),  you can hit the puddle to create waves  (or electricity).   To keep waves (or electricity) in the puddle you need to hitting it with the puddle (wire) with the stick (magnetic) field.

You can't place a non moving  stick in a puddle and expect  waves to magically appear, right?

[Liberty]

Hi X00013,

All the energy in the universe that we know of was created by / during the Big Bang.

All we now do is to tap into various energy storage structures (normally hydrocarbon based, a bit of nuclear and a very small amount of real time solar derived energy (wind / PV)) that the original energy formed into and in the end turn that released energy into desired work and then into heat.

I'm about tapping the stored Iron atom's 3d shell energy that resides in the 4 unpaired spinning electrons that create the magnetic field we associate with a magnet. No OU here, just tapping a unconventional energy source.

Can you make a "motor" or a non moving device to tap that energy store? Yup, but not the way most of the inventors here are trying to do. You see they do not understand the nature of the energy source they are trying to get at. I'm trying to fix that lack of understanding and provide some guide lines along the way.

I have already given you thought experiments (which are easy to replicate) which show you can access the energy stored in the 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons of each Iron atom of a magnet to generate heat.

IronShell3d

"It came from the magnet's Iron atoms 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons."

Do you have a estimate of how long this stored energy source will last if it is tapped, and what happens to the magnet when it is depleted? 

Have you successfully made any devices to extract energy from a permanent magnet?

How did you make this discovery?