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Overunity Machines Forum



New TPU build

Started by Farrah Day, June 14, 2009, 07:13:39 AM

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BEP

@ramset

Your arguments are correct and honorable. I'm sure most would agree.

You should agree that one person teaching his neighbors all he knows about a tech - then that tech finally being a stupid mistake or completely useless only does harm to the neighbors. There is the argument that all learn in the process. But that is not how it works.

How many sharing individuals were not dumped upon with everything negative imaginable? Not many.

Yes, I know what it takes to theorize, prove, prototype, test and retest, etc. AND obtain a UL cert.
I am also familiar with doing all the above and then having a gaggle of lawyers convince a court that I had nothing to do with it.

I've told the rest of the story too often.

There is only one answer - Create or decipher some badly needed puzzle piece then post it for the masses. See for yourself what the result is. 

Your arguments ARE correct and honorable. Unfortunately, they are just as much an echo as the demand for design specs.

newbie123

Quote from: Grumpy on June 22, 2009, 10:29:30 PM
SM was adamant that the TPU was a "conversion device" - this may imply that it converts energy from a non-useful form into a useful form.

Converts what into electricity? 

What is the general consensus?  Or is there none?



Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

ramset

Bep
The TPU will definitely fall into the road less traveled category
And yes unless you know what your doing ,you can't teach a man to fish
You guy's make this TPU sound so freakin cool ,the stuff dreams are made of,however I know its VERY capable of hurting even someone that has experience in R+D engineering
So I won't play.
Until its safe and understood more
Many everyday things around us are lethal if approached in complete ignorance
OH how I would love to not be so ignorant of the things TPU!!
BTW
No insult ,but I hope you are being careful smashing fields /waves together!![I've heard nothing can stop some waves]
You men are the best and it truly is an honor to feast on the crumbs you drop off the table
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Farrah Day

Hi Newbie

You're asking too many questions... naughty, naughty! What do you think this is, an open source forum!

Unfortunately we appear to have come in at a time when people seem to just want to idle chit-chat as opposed to sharing potentially useful information or collaborate on a project. You might have already noted my frustration. :)

Some posts are nonsensical, some posts are intelligible or incoherent, while the likes of Grumps seems to be here simply to tell us that he is not going to tell us anything... and of course the obligatory village idiot pipes up now and then.  We are in a strange place... the twilight zone!

All I wanted was to be pointed in the right direction by people who I assumed were more experienced participants in this science. A little help and advice that could possibly save me a lot of time, needless experiments and multiple TPU builds. A few useful tips on the best way to proceed. I wanted to get a feel for the science and, like you, a view of the general concensus of what was going on, power source, etc. Instead I feel like I'm intruding at someones private party.

Newbie, I thought this science might be the key to the various WFC's that claim exceptional results when employing bifilar coils ans inductors. Unfortunately, no one here is prepared to proffer anything helpful.

My husband has never understood my interest in science and thinks I should be sticking to washing the dishes, cooking and ironing his shirts (bless him) - and after the responses I've had from here, perhaps he's right. ;)

Anyway, if the thing gets hot, it is obviously dissipating a lot of power. I wonder whether the device gets hot if it has no load... I also wonder whether the device will still get hot at full load.  Ie, could it be that the collector coils are absorbing so much energy when the device is switched on that it will indeed self-destruct over time unless this energy is drawn off?

Like our infamous SM, I daresay this SM also was only hypothesising for the main part, as clearly he nor anyone else had any idea why the device worked in the first place. Just to say I would personally keep an open mind as to the nature of the energy source at present.

We really need input from, Loner.

My dilemma now is, why should I bother to post my TPU build, experiments and results here, when people are so unhelpful.   Is that perhaps a question anyone would care to answer?

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

poynt99

Quote from: Farrah Day on June 23, 2009, 07:22:50 AM
My dilemma now is, why should I bother to post my TPU build, experiments and results here, when people are so unhelpful.   Is that perhaps a question anyone would care to answer?

FD,

First, my apologies for assuming "sir" was correct.

Second, no one has been helpful? That doesn't make sense. We gave you some, perhaps THE direction to start. There's been no response regarding that.

All the questions being asked here have been asked and addressed before, and more than one time. It sounds like you have not read all the material SM passed on to us. My suggestion, if you truly are interested in making a difference, is to go through the material and produce a document that does just what you are asking for, that is...answer several questions. It could be an addendum to the TPU FAQ that already exists if you wish.

This way, you will have gone through all the material, weeded out the relevant information, and made the lives of all those that will follow you (such as newbie123) easier by giving them an introductory FAQ to bring them up to speed.

It won't be easy because everyone has their own ideas about the TPU operation and theories galore. Doubtful there is any consensus, but I am just repeating myself once more.

Part of the reason why some don't respond to questions here is because it would elicit many debates that could go on forever and lead to nowhere. Many of us have been there and done that and don't wish to go there again. These questions have been hammered to death many times, and still there is no consensus.

Please do go through the material and formulate your own consensus with all the "new" folks here. No one is stopping you.

You asked for direction, and direction has been given. Why do you not start there? The specific direction has been given because it is felt that this IS indeed a shortcut to TPU research. READ THE SPHERICS MATERIAL! DO THE BIFILAR EXPERIMENT! POST YOUR RESULTING WAVE FORM AS A FEW HAVE RECENTLY DONE!

I hope that was clear enough.

Regards,
.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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