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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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ramset

We could heat water for a test [resistance load]!!
Much testing has been done this way ,Very easy to calculate!!
Plus the benefit of Cheap heater...........

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Rafa12

Quote from: gyulasun on November 05, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
Hi Rafa,

The link you refer to above shows ferrite magnets as far as I understand and permanent magnets are almost fully saturated, this means their permeability is very near to that of the air, i.e. 1.  So they would not serve as real ferrite cores for the coils at all.
You can surely find/obtain deflection yokes with their needed real ferrite core at the recycling factory or electric repair services at your local place, just visit them.

Gyula

Thank you very very much Gyula, I didn't know it. I will visit this factory and also I have a old monitor (10 years) that maybe have deflection yoke.

all the best from Spain.

AbbaRue

Important fact to remember here is that all TV Yokes are designed for 16KHz plus. 
So I would expect most Yoke Cores will work for this device. 
Also remember TV's have been around for many years now so companies did plenty of research
to get the best ferrite performance, so they could get the edge on competition. 
Clearest picture, least amount of power consumption, least heat.   
So it may be hard to replace the TV Yoke Cores with other ferrite cores. 


Another possible avenue is using a flyback core. 
They are designed for High Frequency and already have the split down the middle. 
Also have long straight area for winding the coils. 
And as has already been mentioned, by adjusting tension on U-Bolt you can vary gap in core.

For my core I'm using a yoke core out of an old 14 inch monochrome monitor.
Because the core is smaller, I am using 19 AWG wire for the 50 and 15 winding side.
I didn't notice any mention of what size wire is used for the 150 winding bifi coil.
Could someone post it, I may have missed it somewhere.

baroutologos

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The plot thickens.

This is most likely a language barrier, but as stated it is ambiguous if:
1) ferrite resonant frequency (FRF) is an independent magnitude to which the LC circuit is tuned...or
2) the ferrite core constitutes an integral part of the LC circuit, which influences the lumped inductance (L) and thus the resonance frequency (a.k.a. ringing frequency) of 1/(LC)^0.5


I very much enjoy the way you think since it is very analytical and your questions well targeted.

With my humble experience so far, its difficult to visualize two copper strips placed in/out ferrite walls and fed with white noise to have a fundamental resonant frequency as low as 1,5 Mhz. (no cap or anything added) Two cases IMHO.

a) Case one this is indeed a ferrite resonant frequency that corresponds to some kind of "echo" from the very material itself

b) It is a subharmonic resonant peak formed from a far higher resonant fundamental frequency caused by the RLC (copper plates, wires, and white noise generator)

....

Now again, when a SG is feeding the copper plates or bright to that particular frequency, the 50winds primary coil has its lower resonant peak (380Khz) according its LC ratio? What about feeding the copper plates instead of 1,4 Mhz with say 1 Mhz arbitrarily at same p-p amplitude. The 50 winds coil has different than 380Khz frequency lower peak?

Can be confirmed by someone that?

Jdo300

@baroutologos

you bring up some very good, practical points. I'm still trying to understand how we need to drive these windings (if feedback is indeed required).

@T-1000,

I recognize that the input signal for the 51-turn coil needs to be a square or ramp signal, and that when the coil is resonating, the signal turns into a sine wave. This strongly implies to me that what you are referring to is the natural resonant frequency of the coil given it's inductance from being wound on the core, and whatever parasitic capacitance the winding itself has.

If this is true, I could still see a valid reason for wanting a feedback circuit on the generator if what we want is to maintain the resonance of the coil. I'm sure that the ferrite core's permeability (and thus the 51-turn coil's inductance) will be changing due to the output coil loading and the input signal from the 15-turn coil and metal strip. In this case, a simple triggered one-shot circuit could do well to continuously tap the coil at it's resonant frequency, with the trigger signal for the circuit derived from a sense winding wrapped on the core.

When you referred to "sync"ing the signals, the initial impression I got was that you had your function generator set to a fixed frequency but you had a sync input connected to a sense winding on the core to line up the frequency of the generator with the coils' natural resonant drift. However, if the function generators are replaced with triggered pulse circuits, then the system could work well to stay in resonance as the loading conditions change. Again, I have several ideas of how this could be accomplished, and from the Joule Ringer circuit that you cited earlier, it appears that a triggered, self-resonant, pulse circuit could be the right path to take.

Any insights/clarifications you can offer greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jason O