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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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frantz

Quote from: energia9 on June 16, 2012, 05:54:13 AM
a video will not be enough for replication....
for a replication you will need proper understanding of the way it works.
however donald smith lies, he is right about one thing.  several tuned tesla coils will be excited near the tuned sender.
however they will not duplicate energy..
but if you are taking power from them it will not affect input to sender.
which logically is the key to kapanadze,
as a condensed energy which not react upon the source can be added with primary energy because the sender does not notice energy taken from it, the energy is conserved on nearby objects and in earth if no pickup coils are used, energy is not in the dimension anymore which can affect sender, making the output greater .. . .
Thanks to the capacitor this is possible.   a condensed energy will not react on the system but add additional energy to it.

This will only work only with electrostatic energy. 
many describe this very simple operating principle
they all say its dead simple and most guys cant get it right because they think its that hard!
in fact..... DONT THINK..
In one of the videos Donald Smith showed a copper and an aluminium plate,  he showed how can he draw a spark from it and he showed this so to show you there is no disturbance on the input to the sender coil
This is it.
very simple.!
this man also confirms it  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu84y83_AYg



nmr or whatever complex waves you guys are talking about makes no sense
they will not attract special anomaly , nor bifiliar caduceus or whatever ,  just because they have parasitic capacitances they dont mean to have higher energy outputs or whatever.
everybody is a bit naive and never research on facts.
dont fight with me,
you will realise sooner or later that your time is WASTED if you are not thinking simply and logically.

peace


Hi energia9,
I would like to confirm your words by experiment.
@All
Today I did small experiment with two TC coils. I think larger group have some two identical TC (the same resonance frequency).
f.ex. everybody made test with wireless transmiter of energy like in Tesla patent. And whats happened? The same portion of energy with losses is transmit to receiver. When you connect load to receiver coil you have impact to source. Why? Because we have reverse magnetic coupling.


Let's make another test. Put transmiter coil horizontally and connect to receiver load. You will see the load have minimal impact for transmiter. ;-) Because magnetic coupling is equal cos between magnetic vectors.


Let's test, and let me know hows look yours experiments..


Frantz

stivep

Quote from: verpies on June 16, 2012, 06:27:15 AM
Hey, I merely mentioned them - this was not a complete instruction how to use RF amplifiers in this application.
You are correct.
...bit my complete instructions of using these amplifiers would include cutting out the output filter and connecting a load impedance matching RF transformer directly to G or H or A or AB output stage.

With the A or G class amplifiers there is no crossover distortion, hence linearity is good enough at the cost of big heatsinks in the A class.  The operating frequency of the transisors in these amps extends into 100MHz and they are perfectly capable of amplifying signals in the 5Mhz, 50W regime.  I remind you that the Yoke device used much less RF input power than that.
Furthermore, amplifying fast rectangular pulses, often is sufficient, making the sine waveform amplification linearity of the AB and H calsses - relatively unimportant.



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Doing the above is good for something  because these amplifiers, albeit not perfect, are mass produced and cheap - cheaper than e.g.: $300 PA107U_F integrated circuit, alone.


Look at my response:



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REACTIVE LOADS
The PA107DP is stable at a gain of 20 or above when driving either inductive or capacitive loads. However an inductor is essentially a short circuit at DC, therefore there must be enough resistance in series to keep low frequency   
When driving a 1nF capacitive load with a 180 VP-P square wave, the current peak is 1 A. Driving the same capacitor


How you want to deal with  impedance matching?
1. caduceus with spark?
2. yoke without spark
2a. yoke with spark?
3. inductive load of coil circuitry of TK projects?




Statement:
Typical output of generator must match input of amplifier than it must match  load
Question:
1. how you will solve problem with rapid impedance change due to load instability?

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with a 2.3 MHz sine wave, the power bandwidth frequency, results in 2.6 AP-P. The power dissipated in the amplifier 
while driving a purely capacitive load is given by the formula:

P = 2V    V /�X
                           PK  S    C
                   P = 2I   V /�
                          PK  S


Where:
   VPK  = Peak Voltage
     V  = Supply Voltage
       S
     X   = Capacitive Reactance
       C





What  you going to do  if you dealing with signal    with DC offset, ?



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6. FEEDBACK CONSIDERATIONS
The output voltage of an unloaded PA107DP can easily go as high as 95 V. All of this voltage can be applied across 
the feedback resistor, so the minimum value of a ½ W resistor in the feedback is 18050Ω.


Well we are dealing with 10 000 V and more in  most of our  HV application


yoke  is not HV but until you give  spark influence or spark  excitation  to horizontal  U shape strip winding.

Than BEMF is certainly  a problem here.
I can drive with capacitive loads high  voltage from the same amplifier  nothing new for me but imagine  how badly you beating  amplifier only with  the  very first second of operation especially  when capacitive character of load is due to  capacitive component of inductive load.
Than you just go fraction off, the desired calculation and inductive component is than leading factor for another  delta T.
SHORT to DC than is what you dealing with.
when you prevent it by DC resistance ( resistor) ..........than you going even to more trouble at the very first moment of applying the power to the structure. Unless you have no square wave at all and you dealing with sine wave only including distorted sine wave.
Modulation than can not be done with square as well, or it could be?
What do you think Verpies?
example yoke device deals with say 50Hz carrier and much much higher modulation signal ( looks like fat snake)
no DC but......... try to increase modulation factor and/or  frequency  of modulating signal
to the point of presence DC components of AC signal so close...
Aren't you dealing than with DC ( sort of)


Can it be done?
YES. but in ready to use device, end of  product out of shelf FE device.

95 V is kind of joke here.




anyhow thank you for your material definitely it is contribution of value to this forum.





Wesley

jbignes5

Really so the experiment that Itsu did was null and void because you can understand about energizing fields? The field is biases or added to on the whole. The whole field and any object is biased by the energizing field. If I was to take a few blocks of metal like aluminum and attach a meter to each metal and enter one block into that biased field then I would suspect that the current flows in a well organized fashion. Usually twords the higher excitation block. This is exactly How simple this works.


I never agreed with NMR. It seems they are trying to account for something they can not understand. They think this has to be sooo complicated that they create new buzz words and math to shore up their arguments. But in the end when they see it for themselves they are astonished it is so easy to relate to. My proof is looking at the astronomy field. Astrophysics has had a great many theories as to why everything acts the way it does in space and when they actually look at an area for the first time they are astonished at the results of that finally seeing the event they were theorizing about. Everything gets thrown out of the window. Poof... All the time it took to theorize and ponder over the events in question and actually there is a much simpler solution.


No one is gonna believe in something they can not see. It has been the crux of the world. God being the hardest to fathom. But yet there have been things that can not be proven by sight alone. We have to create other ways to see or be able to see the processes. We all know there are these lines. We can see them after we provide a channel to see the phenomena(iron filings). But this is not showing the true form. It is a deception. The iron channels are force into an alignment by the flow of the field. A self organizing physical channel based on the field of imaginary lines. Matter has a way to organize and give direction to this field. There are no real lines just equidistant lines that better describe the field and the gradient of potentials in the field. Once you insert a medium that channels the field it changes the field. So in putting the test charge into the static field makes it dynamic.


But Itsu's experiment that I suggested does work. You can charge the cap externally by the field. This is because the cap separates the polarities and organizing them in such a way that allows us to use the separated field to our advantage.


Everyone talks about energy from nothing but yet there is no space in the Universe that has nothing in it! All space has a gradient of fields. Anytime we attach to that space it changes the field in some way. It is our observing that does this. There is no way to isolate the fields besides channeling it away from that space and eventually the space will always refill from the surrounding environment around that space. How fast you channel the polarity away from that space is the key and if we understand that if we extract the polarity too fast it can effect that space like a vacuum. Draw too much and walla you have a void. Balance is the key. Creating an imbalance allows work to be done without inputting anything at all well very little if we use the difference in two metals connected by the ground.


It has been established that the ground of our planet is very very conductive.


Iron is -.41v
Aluminum is -1.66v


The difference is 1.25v


As this is the bias I am talking about just from the standing voltage of the two metals when in a conducting medium. Well thats part of the bias. The other is the field we create to enhance The values seen as standing voltage. Now what I am seeing is that if we bias the electrodes (Grounds) to different values a very heavy current can and will form in the ground loop. This is simply done by adding a coil in between the grounds as Tesla described. When referenced to each other the electrodes will see one another through different ends of that coil. With one end having a higher value voltage then the other based on the standing value before hooking up the wires to the grounds. When compared you should see a slight value when compared to the other ground. Most likely 1-1.25v. Now hook a coil in between the two grounds and one side will be stepped up and the other side will be stepped down. So the spread should change to a higher value. No add a way to change the values of the setup as is. Connect a source that charges one ground to a higher value and walla current flow loop forms. <-most likely blow the equipment because the loop is not very restricted in this test. In the case of Kapanadze I see that he had to make the water pipe not energized as a true ground and augment the radiator he buried. Someone should try to see if they can replicate this ground loop stuff and see what the process really entails. It could be he didn't want to have a direct current loop because it was to powerful so he used an inductive loop to make it safer to use.


So for every pulse the ground loop would energize and a flow would induce between the two grounds. This is what Tesla was experimenting on with the light bulbs being so far away from the energizing he gave his first ground(transmitter). Then all he needed to do was hook anything he wanted to use to the ground to access the energizing field in the ground. Now is this adding energy to the systems I highly doubt it. It seems the loops are indeed connected and finite. But they can be used like gears and fluids. So one could net more force by adding additional taps to the source gear. This increases the strength of the flow and attaches a new cog to the gear. Every loop adds to the process because it can strengthen the slip of the source gear and it adds inertia to the flow making it harder to slow down or impede that flow.


Having diametrically opposite sympathetic flows will only strengthen the torque or inertia of the source cog(field). Try this simple experiment to prove this. Find a circular faucet handle like on a water hose like the one in Kapanadze video. And try to turn it with one finger on the outside. It wont be very easy trust me. Now from opposite sides apply pressure and it turns very easy. This is the same premise. If Kapanadze had another ground spot on the other side of the real ground(water pipe) then he would have seen much more current then without the balance ground. And yet he still shows that he could induce a ground loop and harvest from that flow! This is yet again evident by the self powering he provided to the unit via back flow current. This only took a regular transformer and diode bridge. The bridge makes a very good anti reverse flow check valve. it samples into the transformer then flows through the diode bridge in one direction only. This allows him to tap off of the ground loop after it has started to flow well. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Shokac


Zeitmaschine

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Your amplitude is varying because of the changing capacitance with respect to ground, caused by the mass of metal in the oscilloscope or by your body.
Yes, the ground seems to be the cause of the varying amplitude. But why on one end only (the wrong one!) and not on the other end of the coil? Asking the question the other way round: What is the real amplitude of the wave in the bifilar coil? Is it the high one and the ground damps the wave, or is it the low one and the ground increases the wave?

A classic Tesla coil is connected to ground at the bottom where the exciter coil is located, not on the top. Seems the Kapanadze device works the other way around (like my try).

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I've never had much success using bifilars as secondaries. But as primaries the benefit is obvious, compared to a normal pancake coil.
Strange, Kapanadze's primary coil is neither bifilar nor pancaked, according to my observations.

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In one of the videos Donald Smith showed a copper and an aluminium plate, he showed how can he draw a spark from it and he showed this so to show you there is no disturbance on the input to the sender coil
Is there any credible video showing a self-sustaining Donald Smith device? Or is this all pure theoretical stuff?

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look this patent!
TK use coax cable in simple way.
Or this drawing shows two bifilar coils, both wires connected to one at the top.

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they all say its dead simple and most guys cant get it right because they think its that hard!
in fact..... DONT THINK..
I will try my best ...  8)