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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

@wattsup

As far as the heater goes, the high voltage supply cannot create any heat in it because the power dissipated as heat depends only on current (P=RI2).  Voltage alone does not create any heat nor does it create any magnetic field (e.g. in a coil such as tranformer's primary...)

If the source-resistance of the power supply was zero, then this formula could be reduced to P=V2/R, however because in reality the source-resistance is not zero, then you must apply the Power Transfer Theorem.

verpies

Quote from: slapper on August 28, 2012, 05:17:53 PM
I am interested in anyones take on this video snip'it.
http://youtu.be/HBoZD2y_l6Q
I stopped watching after I saw "..the amount of electrical energy expended as watts."
Watts are units of power (not energy) and anybody making such a mistake during a formal presentation is apt to make more mistakes about more subtle issues.

slapper

Quote from: verpies on August 29, 2012, 07:53:52 AM
I stopped watching after I saw "..the amount of electrical energy expended as watts."
Watts are units of power (not energy) and anybody making such a mistake during a formal presentation is apt to make more mistakes about more subtle issues.

but he said it is simple and that's been the theme around here lately.

i know. i watched the whole dvd and the whole thing was stacked up that way.

thanks for the response verpies.

take care.

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we are not alone :)

Jack Noskills

I agree with angryscientist that back EMF in a trafo is current in the same direction as the current from source. Then why does it causes source to push more ? When current in the secondary goes though a load the current is delayed with correlation to the amount of resistance. It this delayed current that creates the back EMF in the source which is now out of phase with source. What I discovered is that when coils of a trafo are connected in certain way this delay is no more so you can take power without causing this phase shift. No phase shift means source does not need to push more, hence you will get more power out than goes in.

Hoppy

Quote from: verpies on August 29, 2012, 07:36:26 AM
@wattsup

As far as the heater goes, the high voltage supply cannot create any heat in it because the power dissipated as heat depends only on current (P=RI2).  Voltage alone does not create any heat nor does it create any magnetic field (e.g. in a coil such as tranformer's primary...)

If the source-resistance of the power supply was zero, then this formula could be reduced to P=V2/R, however because in reality the source-resistance is not zero, then you must apply the Power Transfer Theorem.

Picking-up on Verpies excellent post, our focus should be on the generation of current, not just voltage. The investigation team reported that apart from the spark-gap, no significant noise could be heard being generated inside the aquarium. We have also concluded that a battery capable of being hidden would have been insufficient in capacity to have powered the fire for 4.5 hours.

So, what options do we have left to explain his feat. One possible explanation is that he used an external power source brought in through wires concealed in the 'earth' braid. This source of energy may have been sufficient to to run a powerful high voltage inverter with the help of the battery, such that the battery could act as a no-break power supply in the event of a grid power glitch which caused short interruptions of the energy supply to the device. In no load periods, the external power source would be able to charge the battery. This approach would enable the external supply conductors to be minimised in cross sectional area. It would also allow for the braid to be disconnected for a short period to demonstrate that the magic was confined to the aquarium. It is in effect a compromise solution, yet it is simple. TK not being an EE may have viewed this approach as being quite clever, especially if he was 'pinching' grid electricity from a source outside his home taken from the grid side of his consumer unit! The majority of the junk we can see would have constituted 'eye candy' for the punters. more importantly, he may have viewed this as the most straightforward way of fooling his prospective 'customers'.

You will all have probably noticed how long the 'earth' braid is from the loose coils on the floor. Was this to give the impression to investigators that the fire could not have possibly been powered over this length of braid, even if it did conceal wires carrying the source energy. As a possible candidate for the high voltage inverter, I would favour Gidfactor's idea that he used some type of powerful CDI, possibly hand built and that the spark gap across the load was purely to regulate voltage. Carrying a heavy current from the house to a convenient grid tap point would be both dangerous and 'heavy' on cable, so by minimising the size of the feed cable, he is able to more readily use this method for practical applications and importantly, make it less obvious that he is milking the grid.

Wattsup asked whether the fire element may have been pulsing but not noticed visually. My feeling on this one is that the power to the load was reasonably stabilised. However, i think the output is pulsed at a frequency just outside visual perception, simply to provide a duty cycle that can reduce supply current to a minimum.

Hoppy