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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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frankidel

Quote from: frankidel on November 19, 2012, 09:31:07 PM
Hi in the TK can, if it is a toroidal transformer, can it be cut in half like the yoke device of wesley ??? and then fitted into the can.


(http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/117676/image//)

And btw, are you sure that there is no ferrite in the power coil, in the garden video, when TK is in the house, the person next to TK @ 55:25 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFVCst1bdds ), the power coil is heavy, it has to be ferrite inside, not an air coil....

Farmhand

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 19, 2012, 04:10:04 PM
The second thing for sure is, there is a lot of Tesla stuff around which almost no one seems to be interested in:

Kornelson's Free Energy Transformer

What could happen, if the »supply battery« would be AC and the switch driven by 50Hz?
That's the normal state of consciousness in this forum here.
He has got two patents, but only TK himself knows whether these patents have actually anything to do with his device or not.

Regards

Hi Zeitmaschine, you find a lot of stuff, good work. Unfortunately I don't agree with the guy on some things.
The series inductor discharging into the capacitor to increase the supply voltage is very common, it is known by some as a (resonant charging circuit) or just a (charging circuit).
It was used by Tesla in the electrical igniter for gas engines patent- http://www.google.com/patents?id=iAVhAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
It's a handy circuit and can be almost loss-less but there is no free energy there, no matter how many times it's done in cascade.
When he talks of motors not using energy it doesn't hold with me because I did an experiment where I ran a universal motor at about 10 Hz with 90 % duty to see if loading the motor decreased the recovered energy from the coil collapse and it most surely did, I didn't need to make any fancy calculations either it was plain to see that when the motor shaft was loaded the recovered energy from the collapse of the magnetic field was less. This tells me the shaft load did take energy to power, which caused less to be recoverable from the coils which were charged by the supply. It would not have bothered me to see no change in the recovered energy, I would have been pleased and said so
but the amount was less. It is easy to test, I suggest people do their own tests and draw their own conclusions, I did.

He also says that Tesla always connected the source polarity opposite to what we do today, does he mean the "supply". Anyway it makes absolutely no difference to a floating
system if the supply is plus 12 volts or minus 12 volts it is just 12 volts difference in potential, where the reference is placed becomes the 0 volts. EDIT: (There is one small difference of course with DC. The current will flow from the higher potential to the lower, zero is higher than minus so with minus 12 volts the current will flow from 0 volts to the minus 12 volts terminal which is exactly the same as the battery is normally but with different numbers and symbols. ) ;) 
To get minus 12 volts from a 12 volt battery you just make the positive terminal the ground reference.

Cheers

P.S. The charging circuit is very very useful, to explain the patent drawing in laymans terms - the circuit shows the primary being switched on the low side (after the load), when the switch is closed the capacitor discharges through the primary coil which causes the supply to recharge the capacitor through the charging coil which builds a magnetic field, when the capacitor gets to the supply voltage the current through the coil tries to stop which causes the magnetic field to collapse and discharge the magnetic field energy into the capacitor which given the right conditions will almost double it's voltage, so that the next time the capacitor discharges it will discharge from almost double the supply voltage.
However the very first discharge will only be at supply voltage. The circuit can be modified by adding a diode before the charging coil so that the energy cannot flow back through the coil to the supply, however sometimes that is desirable sometimes not.

The page below explains better than I ever could.

http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html#resonant

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verpies

Quote from: Farmhand on November 19, 2012, 10:35:49 PM
The series inductor discharging into the capacitor to increase the supply voltage is very common
The author is correct that all of the charge flowing through the inductor will get accumulated in the capacitor.
However Charge is not equal to Energy.

idzaza

2004 video.
My guess about the transformer.

I believe it is Tesla's an air-core resonating transformer. You can search for it on the net. Tariel's transformer does not have anything inside, iron or ferrite. and it has only primary and secondary coil only. That is what I think.

In the bank there is a transformer powered with 9-12v inverter. something like this, see the schematic is just for an idea, there plenty variation, but that does not matter. In the can there is small Inverter Circuit powered with I think powerful KT transistors can be KT827A, KT819 (A) series working from 9 volts. I used TK transistors for more powerful inverter.
The circuit I used to buy ready just a PCB is what I was using in my inverter for home use back in 1997-2003. In the can he has toroidal step up transformer producing not very high but powerful pulsing power supply to the resonant transformer via spark gap. In TK's set up each Transistors has heatsinks which are exact ones was widely available on the market at that time.
I am just trying to figure out how it works. All I wrote is what I think it is. I got very intrigued, I might start drawing schemes and experimenting myself :)