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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Hoppy on February 27, 2016, 05:28:55 PM
Then later on in the video, spot TK's security guys in the garden below the balcony. The signs of team effort to stage the illusion are all over his videos.

Kapanadze pays a bunch of security guys in order to conduct his fakes. Undoubtedly. :o

Quote from: cheappower2012 on February 28, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
I see no progress of any kind in any threads here or else where

I do see progress - the progress consists of ruling out wrong assumptions. I have already ruled out a lot of things, like spark gaps or self-made air core coils and other nonsense.

Quote from: Hoppy on February 28, 2016, 04:41:27 AM
Let's close this thread until and if more info comes to light.

Maybe we should open a new thread and forbid all talking about fakes except one can prove it? 8)

Quote from: cheappower2012 on February 28, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
it is impossible to defeat conservation laws,its a guaranteed failure.

I have already »defeated« it. :) Unfortunately not to an useful degree. :(

The experiment

Take a 220V high voltage transformer. Connect the primary coil through a 220V sine wave inverter to a 12V battery. Put an ammeter in the 12V line. That ammeter now shows the idle current (the idle power consumption) of the inverter and the transformer. Since the ammeter is connected galvanically to DC it can't be fooled.

Now connect one side of the secondary coil to a wire (antenna) and the other side to a conductive object. What does the ammeter show? It will still show the same idle current as before. There is still no current going through the open secondary coil, hence there is no additional power consumption, hence there is no additional strain on the 12V battery. Since the ammeter shows no measurable increase in current, any effect of the capacitor (antenna / conductive object) at 50Hz pure sine wave can be disregarded.

Next, we leave a gap between the metal object and the high voltage wire. What happens? Suddenly sparking occurs between the wire and the metal, means there is a current going through the spark gap. At the same time the ammeter shows a slight increase of current. Why is that so? Is that so, because that high voltage sparking dissipates energy and that energy has to come from somewhere, namely from the battery? What if this assumption is just a plain conceptual error?

That sparking creates radio waves. These radio waves are absorbed by the antenna, so the electric high voltage circuit closes somewhat, therefore we see the current slightly increase in the 12V line while sparking.

But interestingly, the first spark has to come ahead of the first radio wave - the spark causes the radio wave. But if so, then where is the energy coming from that creates that first spark?

Only possible answer: The energy that generates that spark is coming straight out of space itself!

Further considerations

Which main parameter is responsible for the strength of the spark? It is the voltage. The higher the voltage the larger the spark. How do we get more voltage? We use simply a secondary coil with a larger number of windings. But since that secondary coil does not form a closed electric circuit, the primary coil can't »see« that secondary coil (no Lenz's law), hence the idle current of that transformer stays the same as before, nevertheless we get a more powerful spark because of the higher voltage.

Another method to get larger sparks would be to use a square wave or sharp pulses instead of a sine wave.

The problem now is how to get this energy to do something useful instead of dissipating it between the points of a spark gap? Only possible answer: We keep the ionization but get rid of the sparking, because that sparking actually short circuits the energy coming from space. It is the same as if we would take a car battery and then we would short circuit the poles in order to draw funny sparks and at the same time we would say, look at that battery, it can't provide any useful energy!

Regards

Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 28, 2016, 05:40:28 AM

Maybe we should open a new thread and forbid all talking about fakes except one can prove it? 8)


But you would miss all the banter and get lonely.  ;)

Acca

Zeitmachine...

Wesley did visit Tariel Kapanadze and he is a drunk and very poor man as he is in Georgia which is a

very poor ex- Soviet state.. very poor by western standards..

And his units where built by a Swiss investment group  and Kapanadze  did get money from them , there was a

problem as he wanted more money for his family. His units work and generate power and your understanding

is that of a classical electronics and standard material science you and others here have no hope of

duplicating the this effect..

Dissecting fuzzy videos is waste.. as is Kapanadze (fake) formulations... waste...

Trying to understand the modern car by some 1800's engineering is also a waste of time..

Suggestion is that all the videos  for the last ten years about the Kapanadze "effect" be taken in to

consideration and there have been many duplication(s).

Do a study of the common sub- parts, materials purity, patents, and people who have made the duplication.

This effect is has to be dissected by small bites like a criminal organization..

Acca..


Zeitmaschine

No hope of duplicating the Kapanadze effect?  :(

Then you are saying that all alleged Kapanadze replications are most likely fake, because why of all things should those replicators have the understanding and the science for a successful replication but no one in this forum?

What about the Stepanov device? Any hope? I can see just classical electronics and standard material science here.

Anyway psychologically interesting: Some people try to convince all urgently that Kapanadze is fake, now others say Kapanadze is real but at the same time they try to convince that there is no hope of successful replication.

Strange things are going on ...

Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 28, 2016, 03:40:25 PM

Anyway psychologically interesting: Some people try to convince all urgently that Kapanadze is fake, now others say Kapanadze is real but at the same time they try to convince that there is no hope of successful replication.

Strange things are going on ...

Indeed its strange with all opinions based on no hard facts. Even if it was true that Kapanadze sold to the Swiss, it proves nothing because curiosity alone would have attracted buyers willing to spend good money just to examine the device in their labs, with the intention to replicate. It does not automatically follow that the Swiss were successful in getting the device to run OU.