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Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

Started by shimondoodkin, July 24, 2009, 11:33:44 PM

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wayne49s

@Thane

Hi,

I looked over some of the videos and noticed the loads were always small and was wondering how the power gain characteristics would vary with more secondary load, say consuming a few hundred watts.

I'm also wondering why the no load primary current is so large. BITT 4.0 indicates about .725A. Normal transformer winding reactance on the primary should reduce it to a fraction of that, irrespective of the PF. In a previous (BITT1.0?), it indicates .003A at 105V primary which is more of what is expected, but I noticed the winding is different from BITT 4.0. Note that high no load current can indicate that the core is close to saturation.

I noticed that the primary current did not change much in BITT 4.0 (3ma) when the secondary load was increase which is what we are looking for.  As a suggestion, since we are looking for over unity gain, a simple demo which would show this clearly is: join the 2 secondaries in series so that we are only dealing with one output loaded to consume a few hundred watts; have enough turns in the primary so that the idle current is small and verify the gain in the power out vs. power in is good.

I find the BITT is very simple, and I think a clear demo of PRACTICAL power gains would convince and motivate a lot of people to work with it.

/Wayne

Feynman

Did anyone replicating this find anomalous flux phenomenon?

ramset

Feynman
Here Yah Go..............
This man knows his stuff!!

Hi Chet,

I noticed the recent postings of you and Feynman here at OU.
Indeed, I am (still) involved in Thanes work much of my spare time.
I have established a cooperation with Thane under NDA, so I can't speak too openly about our progress.

All I can say is, his findings are real and confirmed by himself and another evaluator (not me). I have confirmed his bi-toroid principle by FEMM modeling (also under NDA, so I can't share the model).
The principle has some critical issues, Power Factor = 1 can occur however under specific conditions.

This message may be freely distributed.

Best regards,
Teslaalset,
The Netherlands
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

FatBird

@ ramset,   The principle has some critical issues, Power Factor = 1 can occur however under specific conditions.

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Thank you for sharing everything.  However, who cares about Power Factor if OverUnity is present?
Floyd Sweet, SM, Hubbard, Magnacoaster, Morey, & Don Smith never cared about Power Factor with their O/U devices.

For example:  Since the O/U Power is normally fed into light bulbs or electric heaters, who cares if the Power Factor isn't perfect.  LOL

So in essence, just show us how to build a O/U device & we won't care if the PF is off.  LOL


Thanks.


teslaalset

@FatBird,

To avoid confusion, I may be a bit unclear in my message to Chet:

Under specific conditions:
Input: PF = 0
Output: PF = 1 (real power is delivered)

I am sure you understand what this means.