New invention of motion less generation of electric power

[spoondini]

Forest - That's exactly what I envision with an electricity siphon.  Unlike Ali, I can't claim I've had any success actually building one.  I figure we live in a world full of electrons and conductive material - if a positive charge can be maintained at low or no power then electrons will be pulled in from the ground.  Of course they will simply rebalance the charge and stop the process, unless of course you can divert them (using switching technology?) to the load right before they reach ground 0 (the positive charge). 

It would seem that capacitors and switches would be the primary tools for such a 'siphon'.  I've had no success in real experimentation, but I also don't have background or tools associated with the sophisticated switching technology Ali claims to have. 

My own 'mental experiment' would indicate that it is possible to achieve OU, COP>1, using such a technique.  But 'mental experiments' are fairly meaningless in the real world unless you're a Jedi Knight.  If it's so simple in my head, why hasn't anyone succeeded?  Someone on this board commented that we tend to get stuck on ideas because of their inherent beauty regardless of whether the beautiful idea is actually true.  The logical part of me thinks this is just a fantasy.  The dreamer in me watches each new 'breakthrough' in OU truly wanting to believe it's real.  Especially when someone uses my magic buzzword of 'electricity siphon'. 

Ali - I'm anxiously awaiting further news/verification with regard to your motionless power generator ('The Ali Siphon').  I would love to test a unit personally.  If it's real, I am in a position to help you get millions of these units produced and distributed globally.

[lltfdaniel1]

Forest - That's exactly what I envision with an electricity siphon.  Unlike Ali, I can't claim I've had any success actually building one.  I figure we live in a world full of electrons and conductive material - if a positive charge can be maintained at low or no power then electrons will be pulled in from the ground.  Of course they will simply rebalance the charge and stop the process, unless of course you can divert them (using switching technology?) to the load right before they reach ground 0 (the positive charge). 

It would seem that capacitors and switches would be the primary tools for such a 'siphon'.  I've had no success in real experimentation, but I also don't have background or tools associated with the sophisticated switching technology Ali claims to have. 

My own 'mental experiment' would indicate that it is possible to achieve OU, COP>1, using such a technique.  But 'mental experiments' are fairly meaningless in the real world unless you're a Jedi Knight.  If it's so simple in my head, why hasn't anyone succeeded?  Someone on this board commented that we tend to get stuck on ideas because of their inherent beauty regardless of whether the beautiful idea is actually true.  The logical part of me thinks this is just a fantasy.  The dreamer in me watches each new 'breakthrough' in OU truly wanting to believe it's real.  Especially when someone uses my magic buzzword of 'electricity siphon'. 

Ali - I'm anxiously awaiting further news/verification with regard to your motionless power generator ('The Ali Siphon').  I would love to test a unit personally.  If it's real, I am in a position to help you get millions of these units produced and distributed globally.

Nikola tesla and many others failed at this point i'm afraid.

At least this guy is open about it..from what i have studied voltage is alot faster then current and if you switch quickly it draws power from zpe/ambient.

I think it is best if ali went for the overunity prize for some money this sort of stuff has to be open source i'm afraid.

What i would do is get a 30 volt battery and measure the amps and then run a motor that requires more wattage and then measure the horsepower.

[spoondini]

Aware of that.  Call it insanity, but I can't seem to let go of the concept. 

You would think we now have one hell of an advantage over Tela as he was limited to 19th and 20th century tools.....

[spoondini]

I've got to tell you that if I actually had an OU device, I'm not sure I would even attempt for the prize money as the $10k is nothing compared to the commercial potential.  I'm also not sure winning the OU prize from OU.com is going to give Ali any real street credibility with venture capitalists, angel investors, or existing corps that would purchase the technology outright.  I know Ali has indicated that financial gain is not his goal, and that's admirable - however at some point substantial capital must be put into this if millions/billions of units are to be produced (assuming we actually have an OU device).

I would proceed with validation amongst this community, then proceed to raise substantial capital (you've got to have the contacts).

[lltfdaniel1]

Ali does this circuit go below room temperature because that is a blatant sign it is tapping zero point energy?