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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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tagor

Quote from: Lucian Stefan on September 27, 2009, 01:10:38 PM
I've never said that "Meyer generator" schould be the same with the "Ali's generator". In the attachament the cover of "Science et Vie" no. 698/nov. 1975 and the content of this revue.

if you want to speak of this device go on this thread :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4333.msg84558#msg84558

a lot of replication , nothing working

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Note that "science et vie" is a popularization publication not very serious. "Renaud de la Taille" was an enthusiastic journalist but has not a solid scientifical background

Lucian Stefan

Quote from: tagor on September 27, 2009, 01:51:33 PM
ia lot of replication , nothing working

Do not confuse those comments with "replications"; the replications are made in the laboratories with recording equipment, by people who know better what to do, how to do, etc. -those comments in the forum is something else.

So, the correct answer is : a lot of comments, nothing working. Yes, indeed !

jan.kolar

Hi folks

I am new at this forum. I have read all this thread and I am really curious if Ali's device is truly overunity or no. Sorry if my english is no perfect, I am from Slovakia.

I have some idea what this mysterious siphon effect could be. Imagine two capacitors with the same capacity C. Let both plates of both capacitors to be electrically neutral (i.e. number of positive and negative charges is the same). First capacitor is charged by moving some number of electrons from one plate to another. After that first plate has charge +Q and second plate has charge -Q. So the charge difference is 2Q. Voltage between plates then will be:
U1 = 2Q/C

Second capacitor will be initially charged by moving double amount of charges. So amount of charges at both plates will be -2Q and +2Q. Voltage between plates will be:
U2 = 4Q/C
Now comes important step. Imagine, that from some source we move charge -2Q to second plate. After this plate becomes electrically neutral. But first plate still contains charge -2Q, which creates potential difference:
U2' = 2Q/C (in absolute terms)

So if we use conventional voltmeter, these two capacitors will be indistinguishable. But if we connect positive pole of first capacitor with positive pole of second capacitor and negative pole of first capacitor with negative pole of second capacitor, there will be current flowing because of charge imbalances. So maybe not only voltage is important, but also potential! Remember, that Ali said, that his circuit must be powered with AC source with both polarities against neutral wire.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: Lucian Stefan on September 27, 2009, 01:31:59 PM
It is not necessary to give me that link, because I am the author of the rex research article...
Sure, I agree.  It's just that others may not have the information, and some of this whole site is archival in nature.

"More .PDFs" and my own patent thread in the "Extracting electricity from the atmosphere" forums come to mind at once.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.