Dr. Eugene Jeong

[mscoffman]

That's true, but how often would they hit a tiny piezo element. I don't think my Geiger counter would rarely react to a meson particle. The meson travels through about 30 meters of Earth. There are a lot of frequent alpha particles on Earth, but they are stopped by even thin paper. According to my background radiation Geiger counter, there are hardly any beta particles, but they are stopped by thin metal foil.

Paul

Oh sorry...I thought the piezo element tilted the switch itself. It sort of
reminds me of the 100 year old+ device that has uncharged hv batteries
that rings a metalic bell every so often.

Beta particles which are electrons, the radiation stopped by a sheet
of paper. Gamma Rays are EMF. Alpha particles, which are helium nuclei,
can be powerful if they are moving very fast...they are the primary cosmic
rays. What we see on earth is the secondary shower of particles that
happen when these extremely powerfull alpha particles hit atoms in the
atmosphere, producing the muon's and all sorts of secondary effects.
The muons don't interact much with matter (better than neutrinos
though) and generally make it down to the earth surface. Alpha's
= 2Protons and 2Neutrons

Flux is a problem with muons. One might be able to roughly calculate it.

:S:MarkCoffman

[PaulLowrance]

An old experiment was done on my piezo by placing it right next to a good radioactive source. The radioactive source did not show any short or long term changes to the piezo.

It sure appears as if the DC current & voltage produced by the shielded piezo is caused by an unknown (by conventionally physics) source, unless it's neutrinos, but conventional physics says it's not due to neutrinos.

Paul

[mscoffman]

@Paul;

One Question:

Does this work if one fires the charge via a reed relay?
(with a glass encapsulated reed switch) If not, then one has
to seriously consider whether mechanical momentum from
the Ball switch is being picked up by the piezo element in
the tilt arrangement. I wouldn't buy an "excess leakage"
(in the relay switch) argument.

I'd consider building a remotely controlled version of this...
a shielded cable to a reed relay, firing into a sensitive opto
isolator connected to another shielded cable. A pulse train
from firing a low frequency driver oscillator could appear on
a dual trace o'scope.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[PaulLowrance]

It's not due to the tilt switch. I can tilt, untilt, tilt, untilt till I'm blue in the face and it will LED will ***NOT*** flash. The flash is due to the piezo element as it *slowly* charges while inside the shield left undisturbed.

Paul

[PaulLowrance]

continuing from my previous post, various types of switches have been used, including various types of micro switches that are turned on by pulling a thin string (e.g., fishing line). Reed relay is not such a good idea because of the magnetic field, and a scientist will always question in the back of his or her mind just how well the reed relay is shielded.

Your question is good, but it was addressed years ago. It is a fact that the voltage & current produced by the diodes (and piezos) is not due to the switch. There's too much data to put here. For example, the act of disturbing the diode (i.e., by applying current through the diode from an external source) can easily disturb the diode for up to a month. For that period of time, the diode will not produce current or voltage regardless of the switch.

Another example is to place a lot of low leakage capacitors across the diodes. I've used up to 47 uF, low leakage capacitors. Hell will freeze over before a simply small passive tilt switch will charge a 47 uF capacitor.

Paul