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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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giantkiller

@Otto,
Thanks very much.
I will pulse opposing, like inverse parallel with a bridge on it.

@Wattsup,
I wokeup!
http://cgi.ebay.com/LITZ-WIRE-10-44-250-ft-/220437116031?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335313747f
Litz wire is an obvious choice for the center toroid device.
Expense is emphasized as in 'this is the choice of the wire' on the center toroid device.
He could get many seperate xfilars with one wrap. Once again 'VERY WELL HIDDEN'!

But I have one question that I dont remember being addressed before. The center toroid winding looks like it is embedded in a hardened goop. Like he took a ratshack spool, wound iron wire around it, wrapped the litz wire on it and then gooped the device and wiped it down to expose the out portion of the windings.


@all,
Major Bloch wall jacking this weekend!
I will attach a bridge as a load.
I wire as shown.

The magamp config is a very flexible setup.
The current iron core one is bucking. If I need a none bucking coil I whip out the GK4. And it has 3 layers for even more extreme configurations. AyEEEE!

We're getting close.
http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2010/04/21/30mar10_prom_304_big.jpg





wattsup

@otto

Thank you for your post. I have taken it into consideration for next trials.

@GK

Good go'in as usual. That's what I have been trying to show with my toroid build with 2 pri and 2 sec. Just with that I made the 60 volts FTPU show.

Today I did not do any testing. I finished my animation of the Voltage Grabber Circuit. The damn file is 17mb. It took 223 frames to change, copy and paste into my animation program. Anyways, I put it here.

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/

Just click on the wattsup-VGC1a.gif file.

To do the switching, if it cannot be done electronically at a low voltage consumtion, imagine using a spiked drum like in those pianos that play music without the pianist. The protruding tips coincide with the opening or closing of the caps. Put that drum on a small wind mill to get it turning. Connect all your caps. You have something like that Testatika thingy. There were a lot of caps around that device of different sizes and there was a turning something there also. lol

The main relationship between the VGC and Understanding Electricity in the TPU is that you can use the same system in the TPU. Take two or more smaller TPU outputs, put it into just 2 or 3 caps then unload all at the same time to the final output. The VGC is showing it in a grander scale but you can have as many caps in each stage as you want.

Now if we can eventually make a small TPU like the STPU or 6TPU, then 8 of these would equal the LTPU. If SM put eight 6TPUs in his LTPU or four in the MTPU, then like in the MTPU, when he cut one out with a jigsaw he was left with three. If the MTPU was a quad, he would have had 90 degrees to cut into so he was absolutely sure to only be in one because he cut about 30 degrees out of the MTPU. Sneaky guy that SM. When SM cut the MTPU, by doing so and reconnecting it to make it work at a lower voltage output, he then proved that his device did not have to be in a circle to work. lol

My next tests with Litz wire will help determine this.

Regarding the Litz you showed I have some of that. It is very thin wire, only 10 strands of 44 awg. My last purchase is 1650 strands of 44 awg.

Maybe consider this one in the 10 strands type.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1-2-lbs-28-AWG-Copper-Litz-Wire-Type-1-10-38-AWG-STRAND_W0QQitemZ120513185684QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0f254794

But this one will be better I think. But again much more expensive. Damn Litz puts your budget to Fritz.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Litz-wire-660-46-for-crystal-radio-coil-Loop-anten-60_W0QQitemZ150429059561QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23064549e9

More soon...... the weekend is just starting.

wattsup

giantkiller


giantkiller

After this weekends tests I have come to the conclusion that the system has to float. It cannot touch the grid and cannot be grounded. The energy simply disappears. Remove the cause of the sink and the iron core secondary raises back up to +32vdc. The voltage is probably due to the iron mass, windings and awg, and the length of antenna the circuit portrays. I have a FWBR connected to the second set of coils on the secondary. The voltage stays steady. There is is no ground connection, only a positive on the first set of windings which are not connected to the opposite set. Only coupled with the iron core with no other ground connection any where else. It looks like a 1 wire device with an ambient collection going on. An LED does flicker on when crossed the FWBR dc out! So the ambient charge is slow when compared to the draw rate. Put a cap in parallel and the charging presents a load. The put an LED across the cap and the LED shoots brighter than with out the cap, naturally. I can pulse the LED at a rate of 1/sec. The LED acts as a sparkgap.
The off switch has always been off. I disconnected the battery connections and the LED still fires.
I am very impressed. This next conclusion says that the iron core is in flux contact with the earth's field and the grid emminations.

In all of SM's vids he never connects any of his devices to any ground. When he runs the drill if he would have connected to a grid ground the drill would have stopped. Remove the ground and the drill starts up.
Wattsup showed something similar when the cap discharged and then charged right back up due to his connections.

I will now switch to the dual pulse protocol on the sport model to model an air core / stranded wire. My Litz is on the way. Splitting the Litz conductors in half give a bifilar run.

wattsup

@GK

I am really happy you are seeing some results. Yes the battery negative is not always required. You can use either nothing at all or in some cases I am using my very thick battery cable wire non connected and simply put the ground to that. This is sometimes giving brighter LED.

I will have to make a new video to show my new FTPU mock up with two 1650/44 Litz top and bottom rings onto which I have wound on each ring two 175/46 Litz CCs in bucking mode. The wind was one turn at every 1/4" or there abouts. I connected the top and bottom CCs as @gotolucs mode then put them in series and put only one connection to the PG. I managed now to get about 60 volts dc loaded onto a dioded cap off the rings that are in a special wind that is two complicated to describe so I will show it in the video.

So now I have shown that in the FTPU, I can do the 60 volts show with either the toroid or the ring/CCs. Next is too see any advantage in marrying them together but all this is telling me so much already about the TPU.

First thing is this,

When you look at the FTPU toroid, it is not the same as the LTPU toroids. There was a progression in SMs thinking. In his FTPU he only showed voltage because that is all he could show, like that is all we can show with a toroid that has two equal coils. He wound the toroid with equal number of turns and method. This is my main quandary right now to see if it is worth it or not to push the FTPU any further because I think I have done it and shown 60 volts with peanuts at micro-amps. In the OTPU, sorry to say but he cheated on the amperage otherwise he would have used simple bulb and socket to make the point 100% clear. Again his OTPU showed only voltage because his toroid again had equal winds.

It is only when he arrived at the STPU and 6TPU that we can now see some 1 amp or less with around 100 volts or more. This is where the big leap happened in SMs thinking, and I think I know what he did and then why this new changes made him produce a new center toroid when making the LTPU. He learned how to compress more of the energy.

SM says it is a conversion device. He did not say a transformer that would simply have just a primary and secondary. Step up, step down all without any gain because your are just trading volts for amps. He said a conversion device because there are more steps then a simple transformer. What I think is he is using low voltage pulsing to produce high voltage onthe outer rings, then he is using high voltage step down to produce a usable output. But the question is where the hell does this occur in the TPU and this pushes me right back to the toroid in the FTPU. The wires are not the same in the FTPU and LTPU.

We usually make our transformers with 1,2,3 or 4 coils. On toroids, we usually see 1,2,3 or 4 coils. All depending on how we want to step up or step down the volts/amps. But what if you go really overboard. Like as shown below. Both sides of the coil would look exactly the same and since the center had epoxy filler, you would never know how the toroid was really made. otherwise why take the time to make a filler an mounting on a base plate. His main secret was in plain sight and he knew that visually, know one could figure it out unless they made variations, etc.

The image below shows a left coil of 36 turns and on the right side you have 12 coils of 3 turns. I am showing the right winds going outside the toroid for clarity but in reality they will be heading inwards towards the toroid center. Now if you only just pulse the left coil, what type of juice will come out of the paralleled 12 coils of 3 turns each. As the flux turns around the toroid core, what effect would it have as it passes those smaller coils in parallel. That will be left to discover in the next moves because for me there is not really that many more variables to answer. If it works on a toroid, then his STPU and 6TPU will also use this method but in a different manner. @otto may be very right to say you need a core.

So more fun to come.

wattsup