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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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giantkiller

There are but a few things that are immensely related.

Look at the similarities in the device and the circuit to other things you've seen.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/sclxmtr.htm

sparks

   SM stated that the magnetic field produced by the tpu was quite large.  Almost like what is produced by an energy sucking loop antennae.  By creating a rather large current in the tpu collector windings one would expect a rather large magnetic field.  Electrical enlargement of antennaes has been practiced for many years to both transmit and absorb emwaves.  Is there not a magnetic field anamolly associated with an electromagnetic wave.  If this wavelength is thousands of miles long we can still catch the magnetic portion of the wave.  The portion that compresses and rarifies space.  The larger the antennae the more gain from the magnetic disruption superimposed on it. 
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wattsup

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OK OK let's just take a right turn here for a minute or so.

The other day when @EM was showing his loop receiver, I tried to make one but it does not work. I then looked for an existing loop and knew about a loop inside a shot computer monitor I was about to take apart. And what do you have that loops around the monitor tube, a degaussing coil. It's only TWO TURNS of regular wire. And those two turns of wire when excited or energized will degauss the complete surface area of the monitor. The funny thing is the FTPU also has 2 x two turns loops onto which is wound the outer control coil.

I remember once I posted a patent that was a degaussing system that worked by pulsing into a coil at a certain frequency around the 200khz level if I remember correctly. I will have to look it up again.

But the point is this. What if (hey hey another what if) the TPU does not work with conventional on/off pulsing of the main coil to create either a transmitter or coupling event. Let's say you apply a straight DC to the loop instead of trying to pulse a stronger and stronger growing DC pulse. That would save a major hassle in terms of having the mosfet or transistor to handle all that stress plus any flyback. So you apply a DC straight onto the loop, then, on the same loop you apply a small unchanging pulsing (AC or DC I don't know yet) frequency that acts as a degaussing effect on the same loop that also has the DC in it. That will now make the pulsing of the DC in the loop without having a pulser on the DC line.

You can pulse a straight DC into a coil or you can maintain a DC field and pulse a degaussing frequency into the same coil. So imagine if you can degauss a dc coil with a side stream. This means the DC coil will be pulsing itself without any transistors or mosfets in the line and especially without that damn diode that will kill any flyback off that coil when it is in the degaussed mode.

The other thing about this idea is that it would fall in perfectly with SM being a TV techie, he has seen the degaussing effects many times. So another what if in my mind is that TV that blew up. What if a perfectly normal TV had a wacky degaussing coil that was going on and off continuously, even going faster and faster. What would that do eventually to the flyback transformer and TV yoke? (If my Dad was still alive, he would answer this because he was the best TV tech around. I also learned from my Mom that he had weekly Tesla meetings with a few other Montreal techies. Man I miss him so much.) But if it was a tube TV, some of those tubes could start receiving direct ambient feedback from the pulsing degaussing coil and this could compound any other side effects that leads to an explosion. Just thinking out load.

The main point here in understanding electricity in a TPU is to look for other available ways to make a pulse.

Either that or there is definitely something very new, a new way of looking at electricity itself, that standard or classical EE has not considered or has willingly forgotten since Tesla's time. My question on page 1 of this thread tried to lead into that question with some logical stages but that's OK. Can anyone remember seeing a Tesla patent that runs on DC and that also has in the drawing a + and - designation for the power source. Man, we have to think out of the damn box, but the box is soooo big and the openings are so few, lucky I do not suffer from claustrophobia.

wattsup

Let me just add this post here that I forgot to post a few days ago.

Here is how I visualize the inrush as we call a kick.

Take a compass. Why does the needle point towards the north pole? How can the north pole be so discreet yet strong enough to effect a small needle thousands of miles away, to make it point towards it. So if a compass needle does this, so do all other magnetic components.

Now think of the same compass placed between two small coils that are placed at East and West of the compass and its needle is still pointing north. The West coil has the south pole closest to the compass and the East coil has its north pole closest to the compass. Now energize both coils at the same time. What happens to the compass needle? It now points to the East coil? Now pulse the coils together. What happens to the compass needle. Depending on the pulse frequency it will still point towards the East coil and the faster the frequency, the less movement you will see from the needle.

So the main movement of the needle was when the coils were first energized because the needle that was pointing North, swung hard to the East, then stayed near East according to the pulse frequency.

For me, this is what is happening inside a wire. A compass is just the same as a magnet. All wires have little magnets (atoms) inside them that are all pointing to the dominant field source. In our case, it is the north pole. Applying power to the wire is like giving it a new north and south potential, like the East/West coils. When the wire is not potentialized (don't think this is a word - lol) for a prolonged length of time, its atoms are pointing North. Once power is applied, they will align to the new north south potential and from there will stay in that position or near that position depending on the pulsing frequency. And there in is the kick but it's actually a swing. Or call it a Savate. Nice swing kick. lol

The problem with the kick is that once the first kick is done, the following pulses can only hold the same position of the electrons. You would have to pulse for the initial kick, then realign the electrons to their previous position, to then pulse again to get two kicks in a row, and so on.

Now in contrast, referring to my previous post, if you provide the maximum DC that turns the electrons and holds those electrons, and use a degaussing method to reset them, then each pulse will be a real kick.

forest

Quote from: wattsup on December 01, 2009, 08:54:41 AM
Let me just add this post here that I forgot to post a few days ago.

Here is how I visualize the inrush as we call a kick.

Take a compass. Why does the needle point towards the north pole? How can the north pole be so discreet yet strong enough to effect a small needle thousands of miles away, to make it point towards it. So if a compass needle does this, so do all other magnetic components.

Now think of the same compass placed between two small coils that are placed at East and West of the compass and its needle is still pointing north. The West coil has the south pole closest to the compass and the East coil has its north pole closest to the compass. Now energize both coils at the same time. What happens to the compass needle? It now points to the East coil? Now pulse the coils together. What happens to the compass needle. Depending on the pulse frequency it will still point towards the East coil and the faster the frequency, the less movement you will see from the needle.

So the main movement of the needle was when the coils were first energized because the needle that was pointing North, swung hard to the East, then stayed near East according to the pulse frequency.

For me, this is what is happening inside a wire. A compass is just the same as a magnet. All wires have little magnets (atoms) inside them that are all pointing to the dominant field source. In our case, it is the north pole. Applying power to the wire is like giving it a new north and south potential, like the East/West coils. When the wire is not potentialized (don't think this is a word - lol) for a prolonged length of time, its atoms are pointing North. Once power is applied, they will align to the new north south potential and from there will stay in that position or near that position depending on the pulsing frequency. And there in is the kick but it's actually a swing. Or call it a Savate. Nice swing kick. lol

The problem with the kick is that once the first kick is done, the following pulses can only hold the same position of the electrons. You would have to pulse for the initial kick, then realign the electrons to their previous position, to then pulse again to get two kicks in a row, and so on.

Now in contrast, referring to my previous post, if you provide the maximum DC that turns the electrons and holds those electrons, and use a degaussing method to reset them, then each pulse will be a real kick.

This is very good theory! That may explain effects of powering up huge DC Edison generators.And surely also resonance harmonics may be the reason and actual overunity! That's why Tesla made so much make&break controllers - to not suppress harmonics. Now I see that ingenious novelty of TPU is in way of getting out energy from harmonics without disturbing resonance. That we should looking for.