Magnetic Experiment Confirmed!

[PaulLowrance]

The INA116P makes a nice electrometer that has well over 1E+15 ohms input resistance. With that you can use high insulation materials such as thin plastic.

newark.com - $7.56

Digikey.com - $8.40

Best thing about this chip is that for gain of 1 it requires absolutely no components, just batteries.

Paul

[PaulLowrance]

What's interesting is the magnet experiment with plastic as the insulator that was producing 0.36 volts yesterday is now dead. So far that's showing the same characteristics as the high Rz diodes. That is, diodes with high Rz are easily disturbed, so much so that even taking too many measurements with a voltage meter can place them in the disturbed state for a long time.

Anyhow, I'm tired of long term experiments, it's like watching grass grow, so this is it for the plastic experiments. It's time to figure out how to get higher currents. Maybe something with low resistance such as a thin sheet of graphite would work.

Paul

[Bulbz]

I accidentally posted this on the "Verify this: Steorn foum hacked" thread, so I post it again here...


I just tried the experiment myself.

I set my digital meter to the 200m range, I'm not sure if the 'm' means millivolts or microvolts.

I placed a Stanley knife blade on my computer table, then put a piece of ordinary plain printing paper on top of it, leaving part of the blade poking out as a meter connection. I then touched the probes, one to the magnet and one on the blade. I then repeated  the experiment again, but this time with the paper doubled. I got a reading with both, but with the paper doubled, the reading doubled also.

After doing the above, I tried it again with part of a plastic bag. First I put down one layer, and then folded it just like I did with the paper. This time, I got no reading.

My conclusion... It's possible that it's just a chemical reaction in the paper, or maybe my meter is so crap and cheap it simply may not be sensitive enough.

My results were...

Digital meter set @ 200m
With paper (single): ~ 01.0
With paper (double): ~ 02.0
With plastic bag (single) 00.0
With plastic bag (double) 00.0

Although my results seem to debunk the theory, please don't stop experimenting with magnets. I do actually believe electricity may one day be harnessed from permanent magnets.

[Bulbz]

I also forgot to mention the size of the Neo-Mag. It is a 6mm X 3mm disk Neo-Mag.

[PaulLowrance]

Bulbz,

Your experiment matches the theory. I would never in a million years expect a DMM to be able to read voltage on your experiment with the plastic bag because the resistance is astronomically high. I had to use an electrometer to see the voltage, but indeed I did measure 0.36 volts with a relatively thick plastic bag used as insulator.

So how can anyone explain why I measured 0.36 volts with plastic as insulator?

I find your findings of double thick paper that doubled the voltage very interesting. According to the mysterious diode theory, the diode & piezo want to be a current source; i.e., fixed current. So if you double the paper thickness, that doubles the resistance, and if the current is the same, then the voltage will double, V = I*R

Anyhow, my next post you'll see some interesting.

Regards,
Paul