Global Warming

[Nabo00o]

Silverfish, try to understand that I was talking about the general consensus of the people who have commented on this tread, including you, when I said that you had no idea what communism is.

I really don't want to be hostile, no goal is ever so great that it goes above reality and truth, whatever it may be. And the best way to get there is to be as friendly and open as possible, so I apologize if I haven't followed up on that.


Okey you are not American or Canadian, and I am not an authority on communism 
But a lot of people sight when they hear Americans talk about communist propaganda in their media or "Obama is trying to force socialistic laws through the constitution". Usually hyper conservative or right wing media channels like fox news and radios try to give its audience an impression which fits their ideology. If you are used to more "neutral" media (if I may say so) and watch fox news (or any of the other channels owned by Rupert Murdoch), you get pretty shocked at how everything seems to be twisted in order to fit their view...

I personally think it is scary that somebody actually take what they say seriously....


Anyway, I wasn't trying to be cryptic. If you have followed the recent years in USA you should know that it was George Bush who increased the total debt in his country to new gigantic proportions (primarily because of the wars), in addition to bailing out the first failing company.

Likewise I don't care so much anymore about wether they are republicans or democrats.
Since there for all practical reasons is only a 2 party system in the US, the corruption and lack of democracy this creates makes the voting worthless. At least, if I had been raised there this would have been my conclusion.


And you have no ******* idea how much I agree with you about the increased "security" and surveillance. There have been huge debates in our country about a new law which the EU wants to push though about data collection and storing, everything from who we call, what emails we send and how much, they want all this and more stored from 'everyone' because of counter-terrorism reasons....
And all this started with 9/11 ....

Anyway, I believe this will all be momentarily, I am positive, and I believe there is logic tied to all of this, even if it might be hard for people to understand.

Julian

[Nabo00o]

Double posting again sorry.

But I just have to say that from peaking a little bit around, I see how much we all have in common here.
Of the people who post on this forum, almost everyone seems to be very dedicated at researching and share the knowledge they have. There is a great mutual understanding here, where you automatically assume that the best for you is the best for everyone, so teach and learn as much as you can 
I really admire that spirit, something of the same which made wikipedia as big as it is today (although not perfect, but nothing really is).

This also proves that egoism and the need for profit is not the major attraction for everyone, and it is this which I see is the big development on earth today.
That even though we are still on a course which is guarantied to worsen, there is also new forces or thoughts in all of us which are forcing us to act more universally and less selfishly.

From suffering comes knowledge, and so will the global mindset gradually change...

Julian

[Cap-Z-ro]

Hmm, lets see...a 'alleged 'noob comes in swinging an axe, complete with negative assessments of various members, how we "think" here.

Where have I seen this MO before ?

Now I recall...its the same entrance used by the various trolls, energy suckers, and disinfo agents who infest all discussions which connect the dots.

Regards...

[Nabo00o]

Hmm, lets see...a 'alleged 'noob comes in swinging an axe, complete with negative assessments of various members, how we "think" here.

Where have I seen this MO before ?

Now I recall...its the same entrance used by the various trolls, energy suckers, and disinfo agents who infest all discussions which connect the dots.

Regards...

Cap, if you are reffering to me, then I wonder how the "alleged noob comes in swinging an axe" fits in. Also, if you check my post history you will find quite the opposite, from the moment I logged on I wanted to help, even if it wasn't much.

But lately I have began to wonder why we need a "moderator of truth" here 
Seems kinda odd to me. At least, if some of the catagories in OU.com should have been without a moderator, it should have been this.

This should be a place to share interests about the world openly, but not to create a narrow mindset where everyone thinks the same, and where any other perspectives are attacked from all angles....

You agree I hope, and sorry if you weren't pointing to me in that descrition.

Julian

[Azorus]

Nabo,

That is just Cap.  He is real big into the conspiracy thingy.