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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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LarryC

Clanzer had previously stated on the Steorn forum that none of the replicators has shown an Orbo type motor. That was even after JLN had his V4 test. Clanzer is an excellent builder and is in the SKDB.

Please review the Steorn trace and the JLN trace below.
On the steorn trace, the yellow is the current, looks like a pulse generator trace. Whereas the inductive rise and fall in the JLN trace is obvious.

Regards, Larry

happyfunball

Quote from: synchro1 on February 09, 2010, 12:47:46 PM
Even though the magnet poles are opposite, both poles are equally attracted to a piece of iron.

Thanks

Omnibus

Quote from: carbonc_cc on February 09, 2010, 08:23:10 AM
Well,
ou.com can setup a paypal donation center for the scope... 
;D

That's a very good idea. I would suggest the scope to be located at a place pretty accessible to the contributors. The first that comes to mind would be CLaNZeR's, I think, if it's OK with him. However, if you guys have other suggestions let's hear them. It would be great if CLaNZeR reads this and gives us his input. Like I said, I'd like to see Paul Sprain's motor studied with this methodology but I don't know what the story with the permission by his lawyers is. Maybe Stefan can fill us in on it.

gravityblock

Quote from: Omnibus on February 09, 2010, 06:16:16 AM
Of course, less sophisticated digital storage scopes, not allowing integration, can also be used -- the integration left to be done later in Excel. Cumbersome but more affordable. Anyway, would be interesting to hear ideas as to how this major obstacle (lack of proper equipment) can be overcome, so that we can promptly move on, having the effect definitively confirmed by independent third parties.   

We know the start of the pulse is TDC and the end of the pulse is 20o to 30o from TDC according to Sean.  The toroid core must fit within this pulse duration.  This will be the gap between the toroid and the dual magnets.  20o for a vertical toroid and 30o for a horizontal toroid (I'm guessing here).

When the magnets are TDC with the core, measure and draw a line 20 or 30 degrees to the right and 20 or 30 degrees to the left from TDC.  Now, move the core back until the outer edges of the core touches both lines.  This should be the appropriate air gap between the toroid and the dual magnets.  The dimensions of the core, magnets, and rotor may all be proportional to each other.

If the diameter of the core is too large, then the gap will be too great and we will lose most of our attraction force.  If the diameter of the core is too small, then the gap will be too small and we will need too much electrical input energy to overcome the attraction.  The thickness of the core has a role in all of this also.

This may be a good starting point without the expensive equipment.  I'm sure geometry has a lot to do with this.  It's time to do some math in order to match the dimensions of the rotor, core, magnets and the air gap between the core and dual magnets.


GB

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