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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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teslaalset

Quote from: rice on February 27, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
192 pages.  hmmm...  can any of you guys see this for what it is yet.  perhaps an efficient pulse motor.  any company who says they are not in the business of manufacturing a device of their own invention that would change the world,  something wrong there.  "no thanks,  i dont want to be the richest man on earth"  o/u is out there im sure.  but once again ladies and gentlemen,  steorn does not have it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EapgzWFAh4&feature=sub

Airstriker

Quote from: htert2020 on February 26, 2010, 11:37:53 AM
The Orbo is a pulsed device, meaning that the toroidal coil will be de-energized when the previous rotor magnet has moved, for example, about 45 degrees after top dead center (TDC).  At that moment, the incoming rotor magnet will be -45 degress away from TDC.  Because the toroidal coil is now de-energized, the incoming magnet will now be attracted to the ferrite toroidal ring, thereby causing rotation of the rotor.

So I'm not sure I see what the problem is, exactly. This is how many standard electric motors work.
Actually there is a small difference you have not noticed - ORBO motor does not experience BEMF, which usually is a result of Lenz law. Beating Lenz Law either in motor or in generator will certainly lead to OU -> ORBO is on a good way to OU ;)

petersone

Hi Airstriker
I'm with you on that one,I know nothing about ORBO,but beating Mr Lenz on motors or gennys is the only way to go,without it we are going nowere.
I reserve the right to be totally wrong.
peter

gmeast

Hi all,

I must agree with Rice.  For the past 2 years + I have mostly dealt with plasma discharge and water spark plug work.  But in the past, I have done much work with Bedini, Newman, Konzan(?) and many other F.E./O.U. devices and motors. 

Since LENR (cold fusion) has proven to be real and tangible with thousands having replicated Pons & Fleischman's 1989 experiment since, (including the US Navy, military sub contractors like SPAWARS in San Diego, CA and many independent labs worldwide) I have turned may attention there.

In researching the history of CF, arguments against this technology usually centered around measurement methodologies.  But those arguments were proven moot because the technology ends up being real after all.

During my work with F.E./O.U. I came to realize the importance of measurement methodologies there also.  I conducted many experiments to see how analog meters, digital meters, clamp-on meters .... all types reported measurement.  I sadly came to the conclusion that only 'analog' amp and voltage meters (you know...with dial and needle) correctly measure 'pulsed' energy and that is only if the duty cycles were near 50% (they seem to auto-integrate just fine there).  The only true measurements of pulsed energy must involve scopes (digital or analog), their traces, the areas under the scope traces and/or perhaps very expensive integrating scopes and analysers that properly characterize pulsed current, voltage and power.  I have never seen any posts where measurement is performed correctly (at least on pulsed systems).

When I applied the proper measurement constraints to these devices, I saw a clearer picture.

F.E. or O.U is out there.  But don't be led down the wrong path because you are interpreting measurements incorrectly. I have been, many times, fooled in concluding that a battery has become 'recharged' by BEMF or other field collapse or resonance phenomena.  Example: I would take a new battery and incorporate it into one of the many O.U. motor configurations and excitedly see the battery stay charged up while the motor does work.  MMMMM but then the motor actually does eventually slow down but the battery voltage is still high .... What?  This would be because of the very high voltage (but low, low power) spikes being returned to the battery keeps the battery at an 'apparent, full' state.  Removed from the circuit, the voltage stays high because of the latent battery charge ... the battery likes to be at 12.8V - 13.5V 'chemically'.  But if you load that battery the voltage will drop significantly and the battery will appear 'squishy'.  Now if you measure the specific gravity of the acid (assuming led-acid type) you will see that the density is indeed low, indicating a discharged condition even though it might show an open circuit voltage  of say  13 + volts (mostly in low use batteries).

You can also see this behavior in solar panels.  Take a 64 Watt solar panel with maximum power rating of 4 Amps at 13.8 VDC. That panel may have an 'open circuit' voltage rating of, say, 17 VDC.  You can place that panel in an indirectly lit room,  (daytime, drapes opened, sun hitting the rooftop, you can read the newspaper easily, etc.).  The panel will read and open circuit voltage very near the 17 VDC value (chemically).  But if you put so much as a 2 or 3 Watt load on the thing, the voltage may drop very nearly to "0" VDC.

I want O.U. to exist because I don't want to be controlled by power companies or special interests. 

Well, there ya go.  Don't stop searching.  Just search wisely.

Greg

Quote from: rice on February 27, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
192 pages.  hmmm...  can any of you guys see this for what it is yet.  perhaps an efficient pulse motor.  any company who says they are not in the business of manufacturing a device of their own invention that would change the world,  something wrong there.  "no thanks,  i dont want to be the richest man on earth"  o/u is out there im sure.  but once again ladies and gentlemen,  steorn does not have it....

ramset

teslaalset

Nobody seems interested in orbo OU


Quote from: rice on February 27, 2010, 01:32:49 PM

    192 pages.  hmmm...  can any of you guys see this for what it is yet.  perhaps an efficient pulse motor.  any company who says they are not in the business of manufacturing a device of their own invention that wouldchange the world,  something wrong there.  "no thanks,  i dont want to be the richest man on earth"  o/u is out there im sure.  but once again ladies and gentlemen,  steorn does not have it....
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On the contrary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EapgzWFAh4&feature=sub

Chet
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Thanks Grandma