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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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billmehess

It is very interesting to sometimes lay back and see the evelution of a thread like this. They seem to always follow the same path.
FIRST there is some level of wonder and acceptance, a sort of awe at what is being proposed.

SECOND  doubt begins to surface as the claims are brought in to question and the realization that (in this case) why is a cap and not a battery being used to power the device

THIRD And this is exactly what happened in the Mylow debacle all kinds of ideas began to be proposed that maybe this really does work, maybe because of the toroids coils there is some wonderful and mystical thing occuring that negates all the laws of physics. Remember how there was probably a 100 pages in the Mylow saga about size and placements of the magnets on the rotor, the distance between them, eddy effects and it went on and on and on....
Same thing here!

This is a small motor being run by a battery that is in turn pushing a near frictionless bearing cause "Orbo" to spin. Nothing more nothing less.
Do not let yourself "be Mylowed Again!!

k4zep

Quote from: lumen on December 21, 2009, 07:59:15 PM
And still I wonder, Why did Sean find it necessary to reverse the polarity to the coils?

Just to show it would run the same direction with reversed polarity?
Or did it need to be reversed to operate correctly?

Things are either missing, or they just do things to mislead people.

Everything shown in the video is to instruct, cause a person to think and perhaps whether intended or not, to show clues as to how the basic device can operate me thinks.  If the losses in the coils are strictly resistive, lets lower the average current while maintaining speed in a bi-polarity operable unidirectional DC pulse motor!

Consider that series inductors have a finite amount of inductance (L1+L2+L3+L4) and in the battery, besides being a battery there is some capacitance  (C) and in the correct parallel circuit with some creative switching and at a certain rpm you would develop an AC waveform where there could develop a resonance with resultant average current dropping  and motor would keep running just as efficiently due to its ability to run on a polarity in either direction! A DC pulse, sort of resonant, very efficient AC motor! Just going way outside the box.  Perhaps we need to look at that battery's specifications a bit more.  Hope this isn't too wierd a concept to all.

Ben

billmehess

It's a battery running a motor, replace the battery with a cap and it will run down and stop, it's really that simple.

MileHigh

Billmehess:

QuoteTHIRD And this is exactly what happened in the Mylow debacle all kinds of ideas began to be proposed that maybe this really does work, maybe because of the toroids coils there is some wonderful and mystical thing occuring that negates all the laws of physics.

Bingo!  You hit it right on the head - in search of the "magic" configuration, again.

"If you don't use a cap, it's gotta be crap."

MileHigh

Freezer

Quote from: billmehess on December 21, 2009, 10:42:39 PM
It's a battery running a motor, replace the battery with a cap and it will run down and stop, it's really that simple.

Is a capacitor exactly the same as a battery?   No, it's as simple as that.