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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: Groundloop on December 30, 2009, 09:47:38 AM
All,

I have always found (during my research) that a rotor is just a waste of energy.
Attached is a proposed circuit that have no rotor. This should be easy to test.

Groundloop.

You are right. The hypothetical principle of Steorn machine could be applied to solid state, for example by using the setup you modelized, or simpler by playing with 2 crossed magnetic fields in T.
The vertical bar of the T could be a permanent magnet, and the upper horizontal bar a simple electromagnet. The flux from the vertical magnet splits into 2 equal parts in the upper horizontal core of the coil, with a resultant null effect on the electromagnet (the two half-flux have opposite directions).
A pulse in the coil saturates the core, thus modulates the flux from the permanent magnet that took the path. Another coil in the path, for example wound around a core extending the lower permanent magnet section, could classically transform the flux changing  into current.
Nevertheless it does not work for the reason I have previously given: the current pulse in the coil waste energy to align the magnetic domain along its own flux but against the torque that exerts the permanent magnet (even though there is no macroscopic motion).

PaulLowrance

Why all of the tinselKoala links? The guys is clueless.

Although I believe Orbo is cop>1, I am not a follower of CoE because it is impossible to prove because humanity will never know everything, and therefore one can never know if the energy is coming from an unknown source. And besides, so far I cannot explain away the NdFeB magnets chilling 2.5°F during my experiment.  :)

mondrasek

@Clanzer, congratulation Sean!  Glad you got to be on the "inside" on this.  Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...

To anyone trying for a self runner:

The "free" energy in the eOrbo appears to be rotor torque.  Torque is Force x Distance.  The "free" Force in the eOrbo is the attraction of the rotor magnets to the toroid cores.  For a given toroid/magnet/gap/timing setup, this Force is fixed.  So to increase the Torque on this given setup we can only do two things, 1) increase the Force by adding more toroid coils, or 2) INCREASE THE DIAMETER OF THE ROTOR.

I believe it is possible to make a self runner out of even the most inefficient toroid coil set ups we have seen presented if one only increases the size of the rotor, and the number of permanent magnets on the rotor.  So to make a self runner:

1)  Get the most energy efficient coil/rotor magnet setup you can.
2)  Measure/calculate the rotor torque a single coil can produce.
3)  Calculate how much torque is needed for whatever generator idea you have in mind that will provide enough electrical power to run your coil setup.
4)  Calculate the diameter of a rotor and how many magnets on it will produce that amount of torque.
5)  Build and close the loop.

@Clanzer, can you tell us if closed loop systems exist?  Have you built one yourself?

mondrasek

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 30, 2009, 10:41:47 AM
Why all of the tinselKoala links? The guys is clueless.

I disagree.  I think TK was correct in his rebuttal of some of the emf-less claims of the first Steorn demo.  But as he delved into the toroidal coil design he realized the unique quality there, stopped trying to de-bunk, and even apologized somewhat.  Since, he even was working with some of the replicators.

Imho I'd save the clueless comments for those that post those initial rebuttals without realizing the hmmtoroid videos that followed agree with the Steorn eOrbo principle of possible OU operation.

I wish TK was back here, assisting us.  He is anything but clueless, imo.

wopwops

Naudin is uploading new vids now.

Here are two so far:

The new Steorn motor v2 by Jean-Louis Naudin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM3rGz_KyDg

Steorn motor V2, stator coils induction test on free run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gkxfX98as