Solid State Orbo System

[void109]

If it is not related to Orbo, I suggest you speak elsewhere about the Amdam's motor. It is not the goal of this thread. Thanks.

The cooling has been shown present in Orbo replications.  And the effect looks to be present in the SS Orbo replication by Bruce_TPU.  Understanding what we're observing is important, no?

Anyhow - I was reading about the magneto caloric effect - the gist of which is that, as the domains become aligned, entropy decreases, and the extra energy is dissipated as heat.

Ref: http://www.physorg.com/news107183785.html

And when the field is removed, the entropy returns (domains become random again?), and the material cools.  In the above linked article, they talk about pumping the heat away with some medium, like water. 

My question is though, if you have the material in the field of a magnet, and it generates its heat due to the organization of domains and the decrease in entropy.  Then it cools to ambient temperature, so the whole system is at ambient temperature.  When the field is removed, it cools - at that point where does the heat go?  The only thing happening when the field is removed is the entropy of the ferrite material has increased.

The whole thing strikes me as odd, I probably just need to sit on it for a day or so to wrap my primate brain around it.

[lumen]

Right but only one turn/layer should not provide much flux (the 2Sgen pickup coil doesn't recovers energy when it is in the same plane as the toroid).

@exnihiloest

Yes that is correct, there will not be any current generated in that position, but it has nothing to do with the plane of the toroidal coil.

There is no current generated in the parallel plane because both poles of the magnet are in the same plane as the pickup coil and the 90 degree rule cannot apply to even generate power.

I'm beginning to think you are just either an amateur that does not fully understand electrodynamics, or you are hell bent on trying to find some reason why it just can't work.

If you know anything about electrodynamics at all, I would think your time would be better spent looking for solutions to make it work not wasting time on lame excuses of why it can't work when they don't even apply to the condition your trying to apply them to.

I'm thinking right now, there are probably a few hundred companies with a lot of very smart people, working on new products that use this very principal.
Just like the "A field" article that GB mentioned. Makes me think they have been scamming everyone for many years now.

 

[WilbyInebriated]

I'm beginning to think you are just either an amateur that does not fully understand electrodynamics, or you are hell bent on trying to find some reason why it just can't work.

indeed.

[lumen]

The cooling has been shown present in Orbo replications.  And the effect looks to be present in the SS Orbo replication by Bruce_TPU.  Understanding what we're observing is important, no?

Anyhow - I was reading about the magneto caloric effect - the gist of which is that, as the domains become aligned, entropy decreases, and the extra energy is dissipated as heat.

Ref: http://www.physorg.com/news107183785.html

And when the field is removed, the entropy returns (domains become random again?), and the material cools.  In the above linked article, they talk about pumping the heat away with some medium, like water. 

My question is though, if you have the material in the field of a magnet, and it generates its heat due to the organization of domains and the decrease in entropy.  Then it cools to ambient temperature, so the whole system is at ambient temperature.  When the field is removed, it cools - at that point where does the heat go?  The only thing happening when the field is removed is the entropy of the ferrite material has increased.

The whole thing strikes me as odd, I probably just need to sit on it for a day or so to wrap my primate brain around it.

@void109

You are close to right, but there was never any extra energy generated or extra heat generated.
The actual effect is that the heat that was in the material, no longer fits in the newly organized shape the magnet has put it in. So the heat moves out and the material gets hot.

If you organize the material quickly with a magnetic field and then remove it again quickly, it never gets hot because the heat is re-absorbed back into the material.

If you place it into the field and let the heat escape, then remove the field, it will try to re-absorb the heat it had and will get colder.

Similar effect as compressing air.

[Bruce_TPU]

Evening ALL,

Well, I reran the coloric experiment with my probe.  I could not get the laser today but will try again tomorrow to borrow it.

I took some pictures for you all.  Also, this COLD effect (and it is cold, not cool!  LOL) is only found in this one toroid, not any of the others.  Now, the other two do not get hot, but stay at ambiant temperature the whole time.  But not this one... not surprising considering it is next to a honker of a magnet.

Lastly, I would add that there is also a 10 deg temp drop 8" to 12" in front of the hole as well...

@ Gyula
The experiment has to be postponed, as my battery is dieing a quick death and is even now being recharged.

Funny, it was fine last night, but I left the leads connected to the battery, and even though I had the switch off on the positive side, it always seems to drain it.

On my last mosfet circuit, I was fooling with a rechargable 9 volt battery.  left it connected, even though the switch was off.  The next morning the battery was physically shriveled like the insides had been sucked out, and a vacuum from inside had sucked the body inwards.  I was pretty surprised...LOL and ever since, for the last couple weeks, I have been disconnecting the leads, until last night.  But nothing as drastic as all of that, just missing a third of it's amperage.

I will test tomorrow evening. 

Thank you,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com

P.S. For anyone wanting brooks coils to play with, I will try to dig up that info for you sometime this weekend.  It does take a while for them to be made after ordering because your order is custom made.  But they are great coils for all manner of experiments.  And we have already paid for the tooling, so a great deal for all of you.  And the customer service is always awesome.