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Self running coil?

Started by gotoluc, March 13, 2010, 12:40:57 AM

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wattsup

@gotoluc

Are you tempted to add two thicker coils of a few turns each over the existing coils. This way you can measure any output on them while in resonance compared to slightly off resonance. You can do the same to your one wind coil and compare output results. If both are the same output, then we can scratch our heads even more. One would assume that more inductance means more field but does it mean more output.

gravityblock

@Luc,

No rush on the dual toroid config.  Work at your on pace. There is a lot of testing to be done.  Just keep those ideas in the back of your mind, until your ready to cross that road, especially for an asymmetry system.  I've noticed the Steorn camp is using two different frequencies, duty cycles, etc in their ssOrbo.......probably to create an asymmetric system.

Around the 57 second mark of this Steorn video, announcing the ssOrbo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIZy72uCRc ,  it shows software setup to handle two different frequencies, two different duty cycles, etc.  ClanZer's ssOrbo replication is also showing this same setup, http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZSSpanel.jpg  This is more than likely used to create an asymmetric system.

This document recently released from Steorn, http://www.steorn.com/images/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems.pdf , sets out to demonstrate that such asymmetry in itself does not lead to unexpected energy results, but that a combination of asymmetry and non-linear MH relationships does indeed lead to unexpected energy results.

I think we need to make it an asymmetric system, or drive it into a parametric resonance state.  We're already working on the non-linear MH curve by placing the magnet on the toroid, so I don't think we need to worry about this, other than finding the best position.  Maybe the dual coil is, or could be used to create an asymmetric system with very little modification of the circuit.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

redninja

Quote from: gravityblock on April 02, 2010, 02:29:08 AM
@Luc,

No rush on the dual toroid config.  Work at your on pace. There is a lot of testing to be done.  Just keep those ideas in the back of your mind, until your ready to cross that road, especially for an asymmetry system.  I've noticed the Steorn camp is using two different frequencies, duty cycles, etc in their ssOrbo.......probably to create an asymmetric system.

Around the 57 second mark of this Steorn video, announcing the ssOrbo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIZy72uCRc ,  it shows software setup to handle two different frequencies, two different duty cycles, etc.  ClanZer's ssOrbo replication is also showing this same setup, http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZSSpanel.jpg  This is more than likely used to create an asymmetric system.

This document recently released from Steorn, http://www.steorn.com/images/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems.pdf , sets out to demonstrate that such asymmetry in itself does not lead to unexpected energy results, but that a combination of asymmetry and non-linear MH relationships does indeed lead to unexpected energy results.

I think we need to make it an asymmetric system, or drive it into a parametric resonance state.  We're already working on the non-linear MH curve by placing the magnet on the toroid, so I don't think we need to worry about this, other than finding the best position.  Maybe the dual coil is, or could be used to create an asymmetric system with very little modification of the circuit.

GB

Yes, the introduction of a second signal into the resonating circuit is key.  Here is a link to a video(rather old) that mentions exactly that.  He is talking about a solid state N-Machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0L9rq87n3w#t=5m20s

Most intriguing that ssOrbo is also a multi frequency device.  Can it really be this simple?  Sure hope so, either way 2010 is shaping up as a banner year for OU research.

wings

Quote from: redninja on April 02, 2010, 04:19:58 AM
Yes, the introduction of a second signal into the resonating circuit is key.  Here is a link to a video(rather old) that mentions exactly that.  He is talking about a solid state N-Machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0L9rq87n3w#t=5m20s

Most intriguing that ssOrbo is also a multi frequency device.  Can it really be this simple?  Sure hope so, either way 2010 is shaping up as a banner year for OU research.


Video .... Thanks !

DeepCut

Could i use this hardware as a signal/frequency generator ?

http://maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=220045


Thanks.