Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[Craigy]

With Neo to neo the lag time is very very fast but with ferrite or alinco or your crappy fridge magnet the lag increases considerably to the order of 10-20 microseconds all depends on just how crappy the magnet is. Magnet viscocity is a well known and documented effect, how else would you design a solunoid..., the permeability of the core or how long it takes to magnetize is its lag, which also determines whether you want a fast acting one or a slow acting one..

Stick a fridge magnet on a piezo sounder, attach piezo sounder to channel one of a scope, then using a few turns of wire create a coil and stick above the magnet. Apply power to coil and measure the voltage rise on the scope at the same time as watching the reaction from the magnet. its not impossible to do if you have a scope handy

Cheers

Craig

[hydrocontrol]

So the idea here is to 'spin it up' like a starter on a car and once it gets to speed remove the starter and the motor produces self sustaining rotation due to mass and momentum to get to the neutral spot of the first magnet before it has time to react. After the first or second magnet slowly space the next magnets to push away the approaching magnet. The 'push' produces more energy then the energy to get the approaching magnet to the  starting neutral spot. Interesting. Maybe that explains why prototypes like Lutec's that 'supposely' work but when they go bigger and better it does not. They start using stronger magnets that have faster Magnet viscocity so they fail... Sounds like a good excuse to me..  .. Anyway that could also explain a few other videos like the one at http://www.cycclone.com/ where they have to spin up the motor to get it to self run... (if it really does work..) So maybe the Steorn idea is not such a new idea after all..  Later, Tom

[attack duck]

Hi Tom - Yeah, well sorta like that, mostly I guess!  There are quite a few devices
that require a starter to achieve "resonant" speed.  That is, the device will not operate at all or operate efficiently below a certain rpm.  This is very common.  Even your automobile engine will not run below 400 rpm.   The Lutec and Cycclone devices both require starters.  Just because the device has a starter does not disqualify it from being a potential free energy producer. 
  For a little more info on the Lutec device, there is an article here:
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/
  This is a huge and fabulous site and attempts to explain just about every free energy device out there with excellent graphics.  You could spend months on this site and still not get thru it all!  An advertisement page comes up in German initially and you have to scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit the highlighted link to continue.  The Lutec article is under "Devices Part 8". 

                                           Glenn

 

[hydrocontrol]

For a little more info on the Lutec device, there is an article here:
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/

WOW !!. Great link Glenn. That will keep me busy reading for awhile
Thanks..

[CLaNZeR]

Well another weekend gone and not alot of progress yet again as the sliders from Ebay have not turned up grrrrr. I have emailed the guy 3 times but no reply, so looks like I have been ripped off there.
Have emailed THK in the UK for a quote, so will get thme one way or another.

I tried out using another design to replace the sliders using square brass section as shown below.





Not impressed with the sliding effect, even though it is very loose if you lift the magnet exactly center, it is not so clever when the rotar approaches from the side it tends to stick. But hey all part of the experiment!

Have also now gone for two options on the rotor to lift each magnet, a ramp close to the floor and also inserted a thread to use a wheel if the ramp causes too much friction.



More updates next weekend!

Regards

Sean.