The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[markdansie]

just some interesting things that might be relavant to this thread.

http://www.grid-shift.com/white_papers/docs/3D_Water_Electrolysis_May_10.htm


http://www.qsinano.com/about.php


I have talked to Robert Dopp a few times (and Alaska star) both are very clever men.

Kind Regards
mark

[Airbag]

@ gsmsslsb -Re: Where did the four different windings come from I don't recall a number of windings.
I am winding mine now so if I missed something please let me know ASAP

and

@ ramset - Re: @Airbag where did you find that info? staggered / multiple coils?

A. - ALASKASTAR's ( Chris Hunter) info. It is presented in a Power Point layout here > http://altenergy.site90.com/hunter.htm

Also note that in my post # 105 -

@ oswaldonfire

A question:

Coils were mentioned - made of .... "800 or so turns of 22-gauge magnet wire wrapped around the outside of the pipe."

Q. - Were the turns continuous up the pipe or layered, a set of turns over the others ?

oswaldonfire said in reply at post # 106 - The turns were layered. The THICKER the coil, the STRONGER the flux inside.

One can assume that the different coils are layered over one another.

That ask the questions:

A . Which coil goes on first, the second etc. ?

B. Is coil A the only one powered ?

From the information so far we know this from this discussion - "The second experiment was a 555 timer PWM setup pulsing the coil. I want to say the circuit was running at around 125 kHz."

The power input was 5 watts total - 5v @ 1A.

So ........ 5 Volts at 1 Amp using a PWM to pulse the coil.

I hope this helps. I'm searcing for answers myself.

[ramset]

Wow
Lots more info!!

Thanks fellahs!!

Chet

[markdansie]

@oswadonfire
Firstly thank you for your information. I have been folloing electrolysis and hydrogen production for many years. I have known Chris Hunter for about 4 years and he is young but very rereshing. In talking to hi I am out of my depth in minutes but I love is thinking.
Do not worry about your age, the best ideas come from young minds.
I have uilt, observed and worked with many systems to produce hydrogen. Chris gave me the info years ago but i never followed through on the magnetic induction one.
Just a couple of questions. please humor me and do not hol my ignorance against me.
In all examples of attempts to produce hydrogen something is consumed or converted into something else that needs converting back.
1. In eletrolysis using normal plates etc we consume electricity. Ie the best systems require around 2.5 watts per litre per hour.(I have seen beter but nothing that is scalable)
2.I have seen the chemical processes like puting aluminium or a metal in an acid in an alkaline solution. You end up with the metal being consumed (Chris had some great ideas about revering these processes an capturing the electricity but I always found he solution eventually broke don)
In other cses the mtal osidises as you have mentioned and then you hae to convert it back to the metal.
My question is, you claim the NAOH does not get consumed in your process. Howlong have you been able to run it for (in your first or small recator) before it has to be replaced or the gas production slowed ?
Kind Regards Mark

[markdansie]

sorry about my last post. I was typing why someone was down loading a 5 gig file on my desk top. As such my keyboard missed a few hits.
I was not drunk.
Just another quick point. To run a 5 hp engine would require between 5 litres to 25 litres per minute depending on Revs or load. It takes in most conventional ICE engines between 5 and 7 litres per minute of Hydrogen to produce 1 HP
I. E. a commercially available 100 hp hydrogen engine consumes around 500 to 700 litres per minute of hydrogen under full load.
You need around a litre of water to produce at least 1500 litres of Hydrogen.
The bottle displacement method you described to measure hydrogen output is good. The other way is with water consumed.
Many Thanks
Mark