The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[ramset]

Goat
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What we need is to come up with an off the shelf model of something with a variable frequency, power and magnetic field.
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That and maybe a specific gravity ,viscosity,etc of the "solution"

First we need to Make the gas with this method!!

And then as Oswald says "Make it better"

Chet

[Goat]

@ ramset

Just a couple of thoughts....

I believe that the concentration was discussed in the oupower forum and quoted by Airbag in the previous page at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9448.msg250132#msg250132 so to repeat "The NaOH concentration is pushed to the 100% dilution".

On another note, I was wondering if a Bedini circuit could be used for the coil as they're easy enough to put together, just not sure if the frequency and magnetic flux would be strong enough.  I've made some in the past that were self exciting and open core (air core) where you could slip in the PVC tube into it.  I know they don't take much power to run and the coils don't get hot.

Regards,
Paul

[ramset]

Goat
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"The NaOH concentration is pushed to the 100% dilution".
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Yes I did see that.
Determining a way to "measure" the concentration accurately for replication purposes is what I am referring to.
It may be a moot point and Gauss strength could be more important.

Either way ,experimenters need to have a good way to measure these levels of density
for purposes of replication and improving performance

How can we measure Gauss ?[pick up weights??]

How do we measure solution density [specific gravity,viscosity??]

Of course first we need a working system to start!

Chet

[oswaldonfire]

Of course first we need a working system to start!

YES.

Let's get some working replications happening - and THEN start worrying about these tiny details. Once we get a working model, then we can concentrate on modifying things and noting any effects they have.

While this can lead to some important discussion, **right now** it is more important that we get off our computers and begin experimenting. Once you have some results, come back and post them. Or if you have any questions specific to your unit. And post pictures!!

Everyone understands how it works, right? Then start building one! The first purpose of this thread was to get you to think in different ways and come up with a new, promising method. But now that everything is revealed, it will all be for nothing if everyone just sits there and says, "well damn, that's cool. I can't wait for someone to post results!" Nothing will happen if everyone has this mentality, and this thread will die just like the oupower one.

Get fired up! Let's get some tinkering and innovation going on down in the collective garages of this forum. Let's take this info, take our intelligence, get some replications and video cameras, and take the world of alternative energy by storm. Theorizing and all that is good, but let's keep it out of the way of this thread. Make a separate one for that. Let's dedicate this thread to hardcore progress from this point forward.

Good luck!

Oswaldonfire

[iflewmyown]

@oswaldonfire
I for one am thinking that you know an exact easily describable method to build this. If you will detail that method then I can have one made and working in less than two hours after I get home from work. Otherwise you are no different than ten thousand people on this forum with a great idea that hope someone else will try it and see if it works.
If you detail your method and ten thousand people get it to work than all the credit is yours. You will have saved the world and made a fortune.
Garry