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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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nievesoliveras

I was drawing your idea and the energy went out on my area this afternoon.

If your idea is like this, it is very difficult for it to work, because the electrolitic must be in contact with the negative and positive poles in order to produce electrolisis and water molecules separating as hydrogen and oxygen.

Jesus

PS
There is one circuit by dr @stiffler that produces hydrogen with a diode.


nievesoliveras

From the circuit you posted. This is a possibility.
Using just one transistor.

nievesoliveras


niofox

Quote from: nievesoliveras on August 07, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
I was drawing your idea and the energy went out on my area this afternoon.

If your idea is like this, it is very difficult for it to work, because the electrolitic must be in contact with the negative and positive poles in order to produce electrolisis and water molecules separating as hydrogen and oxygen.

Jesus

PS
There is one circuit by dr @stiffler that produces hydrogen with a diode.

Yes that is what I had in my head
I thought that was essentially what the proposed experiment was about
When you say "In contact with" the poles ... do you mean the solution needs to extend beyond the top and bottom of the coil?  Like if I reverted to putting a pvc pipe thru the middle of the bobbins and fill that instead?

Great circuit illustrations by the way
Much thanks for this

passion1

Quote from: mscoffman on August 07, 2010, 02:36:02 PM
@passion1;

This is why I think one should not consider the idea for use
in a product before one knows how to produce the result.
.........

At some power level, at some frequency and
with some antenna design almost certainly
magnetolytics is possible. It would then just
be a matter of tuning and adjustment of
the electrolyte.

Also If your experiment produces only hydrogen and
no oxygen it means you have just dumped nails into acid
(actually, aluminum cans into HCl) and are getting a
chemical reaction that absorbs oxygen and binds it to
the metal in the electrolyte to produce the extra energy...
that is no good. We need the real thing. :)


:S:MarkSCoffman
mscoffman

Yes, for the process to be useful/viable in practice, we need to MAINTAIN and be able to CONTROL the reaction on demand.
In other words, we need to be able to start/stop the reaction as we like and we need to be able to recreate/run the process reliably & uninterrupted for prolonged periods of time, at required levels of hydrogen production.