vetting god

[shruggedatlas]

it still irritates me like an ebola infection,
that clinton got canned,
for lying "once",
over something that effected no one.



yet bush lied "hundreds of times",
over things that effected EVERYONE.

Clinton lost his job?  Who knew?  I thought he served the full 8 years.

Anyway, it is impossible to prove that there is a god, mainly because there is no god, but also because there is no religion out there that believes in a god that can be sensed in any way.  (Unanswered prayers are written off to "god's will," and so forth.)  So this challenge will go unanswered, and this thread is going nowhere, not that it's important to believers.  They do not need evidence, they have faith.

[WilbyInebriated]

shrugged, i repeat, this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'think' god is (or isn't) does not qualify. you obviously saw that i wrote this numerous times already... do you think you are special? do i have to specifically say this to everyone that posts in this thread?

if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great!, post it. otherwise keep your opinions and comments to yourself.

[shruggedatlas]

shrugged, i repeat, this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'think' god is (or isn't) does not qualify. you obviously saw that i wrote this numerous times already... do you think you are special? do i have to specifically say this to everyone that posts in this thread?

if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great!, post it. otherwise keep your opinions and comments to yourself.

It cannot be done.  There is no proof of god and can be no proof of god, and I think you know this.  It does not take a great intellect to logically debunk pretty much any religious claim out there, but I think the recent string of authors - Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris - who in fact are great intellects, have pretty much shredded all religious arguments beyond doubt. 

All that is left is faith, not reason.  And this is why no religious person would even care to vet his god for you.  Evidence does not matter in light of faith.

What I don't get is why faith in a divine being is considered such a virtue.  Why would willingness to blindly believe in something that in turn shapes your life, despite a complete lack of evidence for such beliefs, be considered a positive trait is beyond me.  I can understand faith in people, who have a track record that can be verified.  But I cannot understand faith in some old book, whose chain of custody cannot be even guessed at.

But I think that  is the better question to ask.  Why do the faithful believe?

[WilbyInebriated]

It cannot be done.  There is no proof of god and can be no proof of god, and I think you know this.  It does not take a great intellect to logically debunk pretty much any religious claim out there, but I think the recent string of authors - Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris - who in fact are great intellects, have pretty much shredded all religious arguments beyond doubt. 

All that is left is faith, not reason.  And this is why no religious person would even care to vet his god for you.  Evidence does not matter in light of faith.

What I don't get is why faith in a divine being is considered such a virtue.  Why would willingness to blindly believe in something that in turn shapes your life, despite a complete lack of evidence for such beliefs, be considered a positive trait is beyond me.  I can understand faith in people, who have a track record that can be verified.  But I cannot understand faith in some old book, whose chain of custody cannot be even guessed at.

you're not really very bright. what part of "shrugged, i repeat, this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'think' god is (or isn't) does not qualify. you obviously saw that i wrote this numerous times already... do you think you are special? do i have to specifically say this to everyone that posts in this thread?

if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great!, post it. otherwise keep your opinions and comments to yourself." didn't you understand?

But I think that  is the better question to ask.  Why do the faithful believe?

great! grand! wonderful! start your own thread about it then... and quit posting here if you cannot provide some material evidence or a logical proof.

[WilbyInebriated]

attention everyone. what has been said to the others also applies to you. if you cannot provide material evidence or a logical proof don't post.

this means you... and you shrugged... and you ramset...  don't make yourselves look totally asinine by continuing to post.