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[dllabarre]

How interesting is THAT? !!!     Laser, if this works with distilled water then IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT A BATTERY.  That's HUGE.  Does it perhaps not work as well?  Don tried it and found negligible results.  But I see your point.  The voltage measures have little to do with the magnetic properties of the coil.  And this is what 'turns' the rotor?  Of course. 

GREAT STUFF.
Rosemary

The magnetic response I got with distilled water was very little.  The coil could just move the compass a little whereas my 2nd coil moved the compass a lot and from 3 inches away.

DonL

[dllabarre]

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[Rosemary Ainslie]

The magnetic response I got with distilled water was very little.  The coil could just move the compass a little whereas my 2nd coil moved the compass a lot and from 3 inches away.

DonL

Don - I get it that the response is much stronger with tap water and, as Laser has pointed out - with other mixes.  But if there's even 'some' response - enough to keep even a slow rotor turning - then we've got some argument against the coil being a battery.  The significance of this is only in as much as the power can then be analysed more unequivocally.  If salts are playing a significant part in this rig then I'm not sure that we can even establish a reasonable efficiency - let alone OU. 

Here's what I think - for what it's worth.  I don't believe it's a typical battery because the addition of water - with or without salts - is cheap and really doable.  It means that if we can get the voltage up to something more usable then we've got something that is cleaner and greener than your typical batteries.  Always a good thing.  If it's a pure galvanic effect wihout the 'salt bridge' number that wiki seems to require - then laser and you and all are forging new science.  And the significance then is considerable.  But whichever way this falls - to me it's entirely compelling. 

I've long argued against electrons being the source of electric current and I realise when I say this that the most of you posting here - subscribe to electron current flow.  I'll append my argument against this but would warn you that it's likely to be heavily contended.  But what I do subscribe to is that 'dark energy' comprises matter that is invisible only because it is too fast and too small to be detected.  And I suspect that magnetic fields actually are the 'hidden form' of this material.  I also think that isolated fields of one dimensional magnetic strings hold atoms together in bound three dimensional amalgams.  And I wonder if these are the 'things' that move as current - are transferred through space and are measured as energy.  If these fields are also the things that 'flow' as current flow - then - provided only that the material is conductive or inductive, theoretically it would be able to induce a current through electromagnetic inductive laws.  In effect the potential difference to supply that electric energy - is also in the material of the wire itself.  For what ever reason, mainstream science has ignored the mass of the resistors and wires as being a potential energy source and have simply considered them to be 'storage' devices of the electric current delivered by a supply.  I also see these and other tests rather disputing that assumption.

Of special interest is that Laser, Shylo, and others all seem to see 'thicker' wire being 'better' - which seems to correspond to the thought that the greater the mass - then the more of that 'something' is then available - regardless.  In other words - it does seem to relate to the amount of material in the coil itself.

Regards,
Rosemary
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[shylo]

to Rose ...20" piece cut into 2" lengths .....wrapped 2" galv in layer of cotton,wrapped copper around this ,wrapped layer of cotton on copper.....wetted with salt water ...only two leads the other ends were buried in the cotton......just trying to find the best combination so I can build a better NS coil....the ones I've built so far ...don't give any better results than these simple 2" strings.....the best I've acheived so far is .6v 2.5ma ....4"straight aluminum wire ~12awg, wrapped in cotton(one end left exposed)...soild 14awg copper 8" coiled around = the 4" 1/4 gap between winds....then another same piece of copper wrapped beside 1st,in the 1/4"gap,then wrapped in cotton and wetted....still lots of exp yet......shylo

[shylo]

also ...when I hook in series copper is always +,....galv or aluminim -, pos to neg is series,....pos to pos ,neg to neg is parallel....It seems as you go series you loose a little voltage with each additional string eg: .5v +.5v+.5v should be 1.5v.....but is 1.15-1.19v.......and the same goes for parallel(amps)......series for volts........parallel for amps...I don't understand this drop in readings??.......do you need both volts & amps to produce an electro-magnet , or is it one or the other?............shylo