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[Rosemary Ainslie]

Rosemary Ainslie wrote:

"Don - I get it that the response is much stronger with tap water and, as Laser has pointed out - with other mixes.  But if there's even 'some' response - enough to keep even a slow rotor turning - then we've got some argument against the coil being a battery. "

My tap water is filtered a lot.
Next time I'll try "dirtier" water taken before my filters.

DonL

Hello Don.  If the water is 'dirtier' would it not also hold more to argue it as a standard galvanic effect using  the 'salt bridge'?  In any event - it's an interesting experiment to replicate - whichever way you cut it.  How are the tests going?

Regards,
Rosemary 

[IotaYodi]

And regardless of the 'length' it seems that I can simply NOT measure any resistance at all.

Ferrites are a mixture of ceramic and metals and are only slightly conductive. You simply dont have enough voltage or current in the meter to close the circuit. Even if you did close the circuit your standard meter still may read 0 as the values may be to low for the circuitry to pick up. A permanent magnet of iron or steel will show resistance.

Could this perhaps be some kind of evidence that current itself simply comprises magnetic fields?

Well current is moving charges by standard physics. There are both pos and neg charges. If current is magnetic fields its still interacting with the diamagnetic property's of metals etc: I think theres more than just magnetic fields to charge but it just may be..
Conductivity in water is affected by the presence of inorganic dissolved solids such as chloride, nitrate, sulfate, and phosphate anions (ions that carry a negative charge) or sodium, magnesium, calcium, iron, and aluminum cations {ions that carry a positive charge}. The warmer the water the better the conductivity also.
Question: If we immerse an Ns coil in water should it be negative or positive water? Within a standard electrolyte battery there is a bidirectional flow of pos and neg charges. Outside on the conductor the flow is neg to pos. I would assume the water should be positively charged because of the natural attraction of unlike charges. That should mean less Resistance to the flow. Any comments on this?

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Ferrites are a mixture of ceramic and metals and are only slightly conductive. You simply dont have enough voltage or current in the meter to close the circuit. Even if you did close the circuit your standard meter still may read 0 as the values may be to low for the circuitry to pick up. A permanent magnet of iron or steel will show resistance.

Hello Iota.  I dispute this, with respect.  Each magnet is cylindrical - plus/minu a 1/4 inch diameter and slightly more than that in length.  I read zero resistance in one or in a string of them - regardless of the length.  I measure resistance in all other metals that I tested.  If the ferrite material in the magnet is blocking the reading then the resistance would be measured to be higher rather than otherwise.  If the magnet itself were 'blocking' current flow - then one would simply need to introduce a magnet to switch a circuit off and on.  This is clearly not the case.  And both options were tested being the small individual magnets and many of them in a string.  I'm going to try and get this photographed to show it.

Well current is moving charges by standard physics.

Standard physics requires moving electrons.

There are both pos and neg charges.

Golly.  Wiki allows for the flow of electrons.  I have read some complicated ideas that the positive current flow is the result of the flow of protons - for goodness sake.  If it were that easy to detach protons from the nucleus of an atom we'd be able to achieve miracles of fusion and fission which thus far, still require enormous efforts and usually result in a massive ex or implosion.  And if electrons are the charge carriers then it's never been experimentally  verified.

Question: If we immerse an Ns coil in water should it be negative or positive water? Within a standard electrolyte battery there is a bidirectional flow of pos and neg charges. Outside on the conductor the flow is neg to pos. I would assume the water should be positively charged because of the natural attraction of unlike charges. That should mean less Resistance to the flow. Any comments on this?

Can't comment because I don't know.  We need comment from a chemist perhaps.

Regards
Rosemary
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38315399/MORE-INCONVENIENT-TRUTHS

[IotaYodi]

If the ferrite material in the magnet is blocking the reading then the resistance would be measured to be higher rather than otherwise

It would be higher. I think your forgetting the conductivity of the ceramic ferrites as well as their materiel though. The electrons are not free to move as in metals. No movement means no flow to complete the circuit. There may be a charge there but that takes a different kind of meter to measure the amount of charge.
http://www.substech.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=ionic_and_covalent_bonding

physics requires moving electrons.

As far as my understanding goes it takes the opposite charge or polarity to move them.