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Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

Started by dani, April 26, 2006, 04:11:36 PM

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mdmiller

I'm a newbie, and have been experimenting with various OU technologies (I'm especially intrigued by the story of Roy Meyers).  My dad was a ham, and I was always curoius of one long wire antenna strung around the outside of the house and tied up to some trees (one of many antennae).  This wire hung loose next to his gear, and he had a huge capacitor he discharged it into before using it.  I was always warned not to touch it.  This experience has always encouraged me question scientific laws and not take them all as handed down from God.

But for now, I'm testing some various ideas, one incorporating a stepup coil into a battery (which I was thrilled to hear Hutchison mention in his radio interview).  He also discussed a battery with a junction barrier on the end which I'm trying to picture.  Reid diagrams his p-n junctions on the side of one of his batteries.

I'm going to try to make some Rochelle salt tonite if I can locate the tartar. 

QUESTION: Has anyone determined if the crystals can be polarized without a charge?

best of success with your testing. - Duane





mdmiller

one additional thing after reading through some posts, I also question the effect of water on the rochelle salts and their crystal form.  somewhere earlier, someone brought up sodium silicate.  I'm not that far in the process yet, but I wonder if this would work, it would permit baking, and possibly not destroy the crystal. 

An old time product and commonly called waterglass, it is readily available and cheap (in keeping with the dirt-cheap aspect).  I get it at the local ceramics shop, they have a drum of it and refill my container.  Artists use it in clay instead of water, so that in firing the clay doesn't shrink.  I think I paid about $3 for a quart and have used it in some other experiments for waterproofing some building materials. 

Mixing waterglass with lime and portland you can achieve some funky products.  And that brings up another thought, the Lambertson E-dam WIN cell is based on cermet and sound similar to these Reid-Hutchinson devices.

ian middleton

G'day all,

@mdmiller:  Your question "Has anyone determined if the crystals can be polarized without a charge?"
A cell made with rochelle salt will be just the same as any other galvanic cell, taking on the polarity of the dissimilar metals used to make the electrodes.

To see if there was a self polarization effect in the crystals ( rochelle salt), I ran 2 tests on 9th april.
I made 2 cells, identical in every way, except for the polarity of the voltage applied during cooling.
Each cell comprised of an aluminium tube, rochelle salt and 0.01 gm NaCl and a central copper electrode.
The first cell was polarized in the conventional manner ie -ve to aluminium case and +ve to the copper electrode.
After polarization the Cu remained positive (1.44V) and over a period of 4 days had reduced to 0.710V.

The second cell was polarized with +ve to the aluminium case and the -ve to the Cu electrode.
After polarization the Cu post measured -16v. This voltage quickly diminished and swung positive.
2 minutes later it's voltage was 130.9mV. 24 hours later the voltage on the Cu post was up to+ 0.859V

The dissimilar metal electrodes alone have the power to determine the cells polarity, but whether they can polarize the molecular structure of the rochelle crystals I don't know. Ionic crystals need a helluva lot of voltage to turn them around.

See you later

Ian


Feynman

@ian, Koen
Great pictures guys!  Thanks for posting the results of your research.

As for me, I am in NYC building a Bedini motor.  ;)


mdmiller

Ian-
thanks for sharing your research.  I made some rochelle salt last night, piece of cake, I think.  This morning I had this big chunk of crystal grains--see attached photo of this first lump of salt.  Hope this is what I should expect to get, if not, someone let me know please.  I had evaporated it down to about 75%, and set out in the garage where it was cold last night, about 30F.  I think the supercooling sped up the process.

I ran onto this interesting article on growing the crystal under enhanced magnetism.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5858084.html

so with the remaining "tarter honey" after I remove the first salt chunk, I applied two geo magnets in alignment and concert with earth mag. I tried to position the neo's vertically to also achieve the natural magnetic dip.  This was about ten minutes ago, I'm running back and forth to this message as I type.
After reading thru the article at freepatents again, I realized it was probably better to simulate zero gravity and oppose the natural earth field. So I just ran into the garage to swap the magnetic force and surprise surprise --  The entire remaining honey in the jar had crystallized and it was warm, very warm, probably 100F.  The magnetism running through the material had produced quite some heat, considering that it is still below freezing in the garage.  Now I have a big solid chunk of salt.
-Duane