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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

Started by dani, April 26, 2006, 04:11:36 PM

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AbbaRue

@Koen1
Maybe you should try putting some chromium in there with the Ga Al
and as the Al oxidizes it might produce some ruby.  :)

From your use of silica gel would you say it has any potential for these cells. 
Interesting that silica gel, glass, and quartz are just different forms of oxidized silicon.
I believe it's just heat and pressure that converts the one into the other.
I have a large supply of the silica gel so I can experiment if it shows potential.
They sell silica gel for kitty liter if anyone is interested in it.

sutra

@ Koen

Wow man, maybe you should start a blog about new life forms creations....playing God with GEOGOO....lol
Nice pictures collection, I wonder on what are you working right now...

@ Abbarue
Yep, as I opened the tester, the fuse was obviously blown...

@ All OK, now I can tell you some amps readings:

The latest cell I've made swapped several times polarity oscillating from - 0,54..V to + 0,5...V
so I've melted everything again to submit it to higher potential (12VDC) but I've noticed that the mix got more dense 'cause probably I've burned some Rochelle salt in it with the heating, then I added some more Salt (2,6 gr) and the mixture got immediately very liquid.
The mix colour is still the same since the Rochelle salt tends to be quite colourless but now the cell is full till the edge and I now saw something I didn't before: the mix expands sensibly when still liquid and submitted to Voltage while curing and it "freezes" expanded.
I thought that would have been a good sign, but it isn't:
after curing, the cell was pumping 1,231 V at 0.345 milliAmps....not bad, but dropping at rate of 0,3 V in +/- 1 hour.
After a whole night sealed in bag without load, now the cell output a tiny 0,08V at 9 microAmps....

The button cell version, with the old bad mix, seems to perform better...

At least I now now that Rochelle takes part in the play but too much in the mix, reduces the cell's performances.

I'm wondering what component to increase now and if a curing under very high voltage (20kV DC) could make any difference...
I'll also try to replace the positive electrode in the cell with a copper one.

What do you guys think?

Ciao

Koen1

@sutra: Lol Geogoo ;D

As to your R.salt cell, I would suggest first trying to repolarise it at higher voltage,
if you really want to add anything I would go for Germanium but if you don't have it
perhaps adding a little bit of carbon powder might be usefull...
You already have a fairly high pyrite and galena content in there, and you could try
to add a little more, but I'm not sure that will help much... But it might.

Also, polarisation of the material may (most likely will) be different if you apply
the voltage directly, compared to for example an electrostatic induction.
(Wrap the tube in a layer of isolator material and wrap a layer of aluminium foil
around that, then apply the polarisation voltage to that outermost layer and it should
electrostatically induce the opposite charge on the tube, without direct current feed
to it.) The material will "feel" electrostatic polarisation, but will not behave like
an electrolyte to transport the current.
So you might try that...?

Just some suggestions. :)

ian middleton

G'Day all,

I see theres a big hole appeared in this thread.  Time to patch it up I think. :)

Anyway, 2 more cells rolled off the production line this weekend.
The first one was basically a remake of my pyrites cell which is by far my best performer so far, sitting at 1.318V and running a watch.
The only difference in the ingredients is the addition of 10g of rochelle salt and both electrodes are made of aluminium.
Employing the usual method of crushing, mixing, cooking, pouring and cooking some more I landed up with a pretty standard size cell.
After polarizing the cooling mixture to 350V the voltage across the cell rapidly dropped and as expectected went through zero volts and settled at - 0.437V. The reversal of polarity seems to be a common occurance with these things.

This cell which I named Pyrites 3 was put on dead short for 24 hours. Within minutes of removing the short the voltage was back over 0.4V. But as with most of the cells the current is pretty weak. ( at the moment).
From experience I have found that if a cell is going to work, it will gain in strength over time. You cannot judge a cells performance on the first few days results. Also shorting them for long periods tends to beef them up. ;D

Anyway it is back on short circuit and I'll check it again next week.

The second cell was a combination stuff that worked and stuff that didn't.

Here is the formula:

  15g   quartz sand
  15g   silicon carbide
    5g   rochelle salt
    1g   borax
.01g   graphite
  1 tsp concentrated sodium silicate solution
  0.5g  tourmaline

The whole lot mixed and cooked until the RS and Na2SiO3 melted togther and then poured into an aluminium tube.
The positive electrode was copper. ( not heat treated)

This cell I have called the Borax cell ( Eric didn't seem to fit  ;D )
I did not polarize this one because as soon as it was made the voltage was 1.625 volts , admittedly it was still hot.
However once it had cooled to room temperature it's voltage had dropped to 1.55 V. Not bad I thought, but the datalogger load brings it down to 0.74V.  I'll make no claims on it's stability until it has run in this mode for a week at least.
Nonetheless it's higher than normal open circuit voltage is quite interesting.

Ok , over to you guys, and comments welcome.  ;D

Catch yo later

Ian

hitech70

I joined this group because of this one subject building a free energy power cell.

Of course these voltages are not so much an issue with this Power Cell project.
The problem is Current, No Pressure the led will never light up.
In John's videos, I noticed that he used a Large Stainless Steel Container's, thus the bigger, the more conductor of electric power and contact with his formula. As well as nice size middle inner core for the node.
What amazed me was the current and voltage that he used was suspend or frozen in time.

So here we go, my mix an Electrolyte + Metalictic Conductor + Isolator + Polymer That once dries hardens.
I am cooking several different formulas to which I am waiting to cure out....
An Yes, Salt is the Electrolyte, The Metallic Conductor, I am using a various metals...(No Recomendation Now)
The Isolator is the Silica or Sand.
Polymer any that hardens after being heated and electrically charged.

My Search Is For Current:
My record is 5mili Amps and 1/2 Volt DC...
My blunder is that I should of record my mix of 3 weeks ago... A huge mistake....

I think it so cool to be in a group, who is trying to Crack the formula...
John's patent is a secret... It will never be revealed...
I have searched YouTube to see if one has cracked as well as look for other Web Sites on this Subject.

Off The Wall, I know so people who filled patients waiting for 3 Years...
Those who spent more than 8 thousand Dollars...
An one day they got letters, stating that there invention is conflict of US interest and Military apllications.

If any you gain more than 25mili amps of continous DC Current in a Dry Cell Please let me know.
Just Advice == Always document every thing you do, including your mixtures.
Even use a stop watch and record you time as you heat or cook your formula's.  In Every Detail....