Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[Pirate88179]

Ian:

My guess is that you are below the threshold for whatever transistor you are using.  .45 volts is pretty low for most transistors.  The 2N3904 might just work at that level, but just barely.  If you can find a germanium transistor, some of them will work down to about .2 volts or so.  I think the 2N3904 is around .4-.5 volts range.

This is why I suggested a series connection with several cells and then, if you need more power, a parallel connection with a couple more.  I am confident this arrangement would run a JT circuit with no problems.  The flashing you are seeing is because the frequency has dropped to a low enough level that your eyes can see the flashes.  This is probably due to the threshold range of the transistor you are using as mentioned above. I am not totally sure about this. Usually, the basic JT circuit will flash the led on and off at about 20 -25kHz so it appears to be on all of the time.

Keep up your research here, you never know when a breakthrough will appear.

Bill

[modernsteam]

G'Day all,

Thought it was about time I made a report.  I've made a few improvements to the cell matrix which look very promising. But before I go into that here's a bit of history.

Cell production started up again at Muppet labs on 15th November 2009. I now use a new naming convention which far easier to follow. I can't keep calling every cell "eric".
So the first cell off the line was cell 1-2009. The month of construction is written on it's log sheet (birth certificate ). I've thrown in a picture of all the cells made since November 2009 to the present.
Many of these cells you have seen in one of my last posts.

The cell at the back of the picure ( cell 4-2009) is currently running a digital watch. It is the one in the hermetically sealed stabilized environment control system. ( Takeout box).
At the start of it's job running the watch, on 9th Dec 2009, it's voltage was 1.09V.
Today,12th Feb 2010, it's voltage has increased to 1.176V. So I don't think that watch is going to stop any time soon.
The mix for this cell is very simple and it has become the great grandfather of my more recent and far more powerful cells.

For a long time I used the "pyrite cell " as a benchmark for cell voltage. To this day it is still @1.187 V and that was made on 2nd March 2008. It is still capable of pulsing 100uA into a short circuit. Well all good things have to come to an end. Along came Cell 7-2010. It's open circuit voltage is 1.42 V and can supply around 1mA into loads of 1Kohm down to 220 Ohms.
This constant current regardless of load resistance puts 7-2010 on a par with Marcus Reid cells. Can't say about John Hutchinsons cells because to the best of my knowledge he has never posted any current values for them.
Recently I have become a fan of Plaster of Paris and Portland cement for reasons I'll go into in a bit but first I have to thank jeanna for heading me off in that direction over a year ago. .

This year all cells, 1-2010 thru 10-2010 use a combination of plaster of paris ( CaCO4 ) and portland cement. I wanted to exploite part of the chemical reaction that goes on when cement sets. This has to do with the formation of a mineral called Ettringite. Ettringite is formed, in the presence of gypsom ( plaster of paris ) and portland cement. It is very largely water locked up in molecular form but as you know water is a tremendous dipole. I thought it may be possible to align the Ettringite crystals as they were forming using a weak electric current. This formation can take up to 10 hours or more and is certainly not complete for several days. The current needed to align the ettringite is supplied by the chemical reaction betweem the aluminium -ve and the sodium silicate in the mix. A 1 Mohm resister is used for the load.

Well I'm not sure if the theory is sound but something seems to have worked, take alook  at the LED photo. 2 x 10-2010 cells running at 2.04 mA @1.713 V. I have now put these cells to work running a travellers clock. A 0.9mA pulse is required each second to move the second hand. See photo. These cells respond well to being pulsed.

Now there some who follow this thread ( imagine a guy with a patch and parrot on his shoulder ) who may have already sussed out the next logical step to take these things. Lets see if we are thinking along the same lines 

Also the powers of regeneration of these cells has been vastly improved, for example, cell 10-2010 (2) was short circuited for 36 hours. When the short was removed the O/C voltage increased to over 1.155 V in less than 30 seconds and after an hour was still increasing past 1.343 V. A quick short across the meter produced a surge current > 50 mA.

I'll leave it there for the time being but I'll be back with more results soon.

Take care all. Cya.

Ian

Fantastic work, Ian, and to all, an excellent job under way!

I've just sent a bunch of my New Energy acquaintances the URL for this page on the Hutchison Cell, so they can be informed of the latest advances, and perhaps contribute to the effort.

Sincerely,

Hal Ade,
Gatineau, QC.

[mscoffman]

@ian

Yes ion's if not chemically driven will gladly short out the cell
as well as drive it...Water is is worlds greatest ionizer...but
it may be covering up for other ionizers that at least I currently
don't know about.

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Also;

Put two (or more) crystal cells in series! - the Jt will handle it.

Most likely the Jt is still oscillating - but at the rate the led is
flashing!

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Germanium transistors have a .2Vdc voltage pedestal - Good
But internally their semiconductor dopants are not pinned into
the germanium array, so their characteristics can change with
time. - Bad  Fortunately for this application the migration is
proportional to voltage and chip temperature. This problem
might be resolvable by boostraping a germanium transistor
with a silicon one - each handling their part of the switching
problem each without getting too hot.

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If you get the crystal Jt working you may just want to look at the
competitive products such as tritium pocket torches from mb microtec
...at $238 US. they have all sorts of problems and need birth certificates
too. See...

:S:MarkSCoffman

[das aloda bullspit]

Thankyou mr middleton.. ia have noted this informantion and upon the time where i am able to get a highvoltage generatorand the other essential equipment i will psot back results as well as a cell of my own hopefully... as there doesnt seem to be much stuff around at the moment ...just out of curiosity would aligning poles be ok with mains battery charger i have taken apart ..im curious as i heard that hi amps with a hi volatge can damage the cells...ill look into this...sorry bear with me i am new to this

[das aloda bullspit]

I have been reading into this and stuff and ive just realised that making a crystal cell with the same output more tan once ..well in my case isverry hard if impossible...probaly due to my low to mid voltage equip ..but making favouravble mixes is like a cross with diiging for gold and mining for oil in my sense anyways ..ill make a cell with a higher voltage soon if i can ..not sure waht happent to my first cell only rochelle salt and silicon...=so good ..ill ask fat bob at the station if i can use his magnetic car crane ..he will let me if i ask him nicely.."its for da good of the world..."uhhhhh.well ok then"...but until then keep up you research i sense that you are close ...closer than i am at the moment
Thankyou Please
.........B..........