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Relative Permittivity of Water

Started by Torana, October 14, 2010, 04:35:01 AM

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Torana

HP the 1st,
1;put the sun dial down and buy a watch, THERE ARE 60 SECONDS IN A MINUTE... this is not spellcheck.
2; who said stan meyers used 7 LPM ? WHO? think about it ..
3;missing energy content based on whos figures ?  stan meyers released NO FIGURES
remember Eugene Mallove or should that be erased from the video ?
4: YOUR the first person to get 3500 hz thru a SCR , your power supply is 120 hz
How do you explain that?
I dont think you listen when someone is helping you
****LEARN what a SCR does ***  you can do that IF you HELP YOURSELF.

Ive already written about rect mains boiling water -large bubbles.
Your V = 150 - 300  , .8 - 2 A  , 138 - 256 OHMS .
300 / 1.33 = 225 ohm I have no idea where your measuring but that is NOT Xc . 
Remember the calcs Ive already done ?   standard practice.

Does Variac want to blow? Does choke heat?   Remember your power supply is the national grid**
**Have you done the calcs **THIS IS YOUR RESPONSILITY as the researcher in order to do that you need to LEARN electronics , you CANT AVOID IT.

This thread is to try and raise awareness of REALITY , its a form of charity.....it seems.

Torana


Im now convinced that the 8XA ...WILL.. be wheeled out  10 years  from now ....the same old crap.

wfchobby

Hi
what made me curious about the 8xa diagram wass the fact it relies upon an AC supply, unless it was intended to operate from some sort of inverter im not convinced the 8xa diagram was for operational purposes in a vehicle, imho.

So as im not as familiar with the in-depth issues as discussed on this thread - I would like to ask - what then would be a desired circuit design to drive a VIC for a cell set?

another curiosity I have for which I dont have the experience to answer is.....the 8xa circuit diagram, to my mind, shows a sine type wave (unipolar voltage) at 120hz giving the appearance of being gated thru the scr. Other diagrams, and the "lawton" type diagrams show a square wave driving a ...coil of sorts (whether it be the VIC or bifilar coils).

Assuming a design uses a VIC coil:
is there any functional differences in driving a coil with a sine wave or square wave to obtain a desired end result at the WFC??


h20power

Quote from: wfchobby on September 22, 2011, 05:46:04 AM
Hi
what made me curious about the 8xa diagram was the fact it relies upon an AC supply, unless it was intended to operate from some sort of inverter I'm not convinced the 8xa diagram was for operational purposes in a vehicle, IMHO.

So as I'm not as familiar with the in-depth issues as discussed on this thread - I would like to ask - what then would be a desired circuit design to drive a VIC for a cell set?

another curiosity I have for which I dint have the experience to answer is.....the 8xa circuit diagram, to my mind, shows a sine type wave (unipolar voltage) at 120hz giving the appearance of being gated thru the scr. Other diagrams, and the "Lawton" type diagrams show a square wave driving a ...coil of sorts (whether it be the VIC or bifilar coils).

Assuming a design uses a VIC coil:
is there any functional differences in driving a coil with a sine wave or square wave to obtain a desired end result at the WFC??

The 8xa circuit is only a starting point to understanding just what Stanley Meyer did, nothing more. You will have to read the International Independent Test-Evaluation to see just what the 8xa circuit was used for. It is a Voltage Intensifier Circuit, Meyer hadn't gotten everything right and made lots of improvements with each design.

Now going from the 8xa circuit to the VIC transformer you can see that the SCR switch, which is limited, was removed from the role of frequency generation.

The square wave is used with DC voltage to produce a magnetic field cut off in the primary coil, but the wave that the secondary makes is a sin wave. I go over the VIC transformer here if you want learn more: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=995&postcount=2
The square waves are just to give it a magnetic field collapse so a voltage is induced to the secondary winding using power from a DC source. From the page I gave you to view you will learn what goes to the WFC(ER) and more.

From what I gather on the 8xa circuit it was meant to demonstrate that Dr. Faraday's method was not the only way to break the bonds of the water molecules. Plus to also show that one could use less power and produce more gas than Dr. Faraday's method said was possible.

Anyway I think I have posted enough in this thread to give people more hope towards winging ourselves off of oil plus the rest of the dirty forms of fuel in use today.

Take care everyone,

h2opower

Torana