New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

[Pirate88179]

like I said all these ideas are trivial and posting more of these trivialities should be discouraged to keep the discussion focused. Non-trivial is the actual making of these devices and some individuals such as @Roobert33 are obviously better than others in that.

Omni:

Chill out.  Please do not ridicule others ideas when you admitted that you still think Mylow's motor was real and working without the fish line.  I really thought that you were more intelligent than that.  And the Bill Clinton thing?  Man, I saw that a mile away the first time she stood next to him at a press conference.

This motor is not a real working motor.  The "inventor" freely admitted that.  I really don't see the point of replicating another fake.  It was an interesting design and a unique approach BUT, it did not work which is why it had to be faked.

When you come up with a working design, I will be the first to shake your hand, but, until then, anyone's ideas on how this might be done are as valid as anyone else's.

With all due respect,

Bill

[maw2432]

Hi All,
http://www.youtube.com/user/isidoropotente#p/u/5/Z1Ral-qQZ0s

Interesting video..   is the solenoid just returning the stator?

[Omnibus]

Omni:

Chill out.  Please do not ridicule others ideas when you admitted that you still think Mylow's motor was real and working without the fish line.  I really thought that you were more intelligent than that.  And the Bill Clinton thing?  Man, I saw that a mile away the first time she stood next to him at a press conference.

This motor is not a real working motor.  The "inventor" freely admitted that.  I really don't see the point of replicating another fake.  It was an interesting design and a unique approach BUT, it did not work which is why it had to be faked.

When you come up with a working design, I will be the first to shake your hand, but, until then, anyone's ideas on how this might be done are as valid as anyone else's.

With all due respect,

Bill

It's not about ridiculing ideas. The truth is these ideas are all trivial and there's no need to generate more trivialities. You won't disagree, I hope, that overwhelmingly the posts are by armchair philosophers, repeating the obvious over and over again although in difference wraps and not by people really involved in the research. @Roober33's is by no means just an idea but is a real apparatus made with superb craftsmanship. You can't compare that with someone's scribble, calling it an idea, not to say with the impudent interference of certain individuals with their useless blabber, interrupting the discussions.

As for the admission, like I said, I don't believe a word of that admission. Please show how this drum can turn, powered by a coil in your shirt and then I may start believing it is fake. I don't know about Mylow either. The fishing line escape was too fishy. If you need a real scam, however, look at what @alsetalokin(@Tinsel Koala) did when trying to teach @overconfident a lesson. Yes, that was a genuine scam. I don't know what lesson @overconfident learned from that but many of us learned not to trust a word of what @alsetalokin(@Tinsel Koala) says.

As for @Roobert33 there may be many reasons why he went into oblivion faking an admission. He might have been threatened or may just want the likes of Sterling Allen to get off his back. People may have all kinds of reasons for such behavior. He may, for instance, think that it isn't good enough because it can't be used in its current form to cut his utility bills.

Of course, there's a new trend among those who want to squash the OU movement. They know the times have changed, especially when there's Internet, and a plain denial won't work let alone prohibition. The innovative approaches to fight the "fools" dealing with OU are, in addition to ridicule, resorting to offering plausible fakes to teach anyone of those wide eyed crazies a lesson by leading them along a garden path to nowhere. In this way they hope the coo coos will be burnt out and will stop multiplying, thus clearing the road for the mainstream. This @Roobert33 action very well may be another one of those projects aimed at what said forces see as nuisance in the face of the OU adherents. That's a possibility if we didn't already have a firm basis to know such machines are possible.

So, look at this situation from its positive perspective following from these two things: on the one hand it has already been proven that such machines can exist and on the other, instead of just theorizing @Roobert33 has actually shown a realliy skillfully made model, a model of perfection rarely seen in these forums. The question we have to ask ourselves at this point is whether or not the principles of the magnetic propulsor (the device definitively proving OU) are implemented in @Roobert33's device. If these principles are implemented then it really is a perpetuum mobile. On the face of it it appears they are but the real answer can be reached only through experiment. The theoretical analysis isn't straightforward, unfortunately.

[maw2432]

I guess the main thing that made me think this could possibly work was that the cam was leveraged.    I wrote this paper in 2009 about a leveraged stator concept and even named the concept LevStat.  (work in progress)     I really believe it has not been fully explored.    The V-gate rotor design by Robert33 looks to provide a possible a good test of the concept whether it works or not.   

Bill

[Dusty]

It seems like the sticky spot is always the problem.  I've been working on an idea to get through that sticky spot and it involves turning the magnet at the exact point where it would normally hang up.  I made a video which shows what I'm talking about at:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMtVYat4MKs

It might help with the V-track design, or maybe not? 

Dusty