Gravity motor concept design

[Omnibus]

I guess if the devices don't work it would be a useless museum. I hope he appreciates the lead you gave him. Thanx

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[solardark]

@ mr_bojangles... the system does not use any springs. those small discs are supposed to be strong permanent magnets. should have mentioned that earlier, sorry.

@ResinRat2... they are very different devices. that site shows three similar weights equally spaced from the center with no provision for altering arm length. this has a slider mechanism included to allow changes in moment arm lengths. i'm playing with MOMENTS here not weights.

@omnibus... thank you.couldn't have said it better myself. but i don't agree with you about that site showing unworkable devices. couldn't have gotten this far without that site showing me things i need to avoid

@mrmag... it could, if you tweak it right. the guys who said man would never fly must have looked at da vinci's ( correct me if i'm wrong please) wing design and said it's a bunch of crap.

@helmut... i'll post a writeup explaining how the system goes through it's stages.


thanks everyone for the comments so far. sorry for not responding sooner. still don't have anyone saying they'd be willing to try it out though. would be really great if someone would prove this for all of us.

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[Cherryman]

Hi I tried this one some time ago, never build one, just testdrived

http://www.youtube.com/user/YbborNetsrek#p/u/41/Q9PEN-LmRWk

[truesearch]

@solardark:

Please do provide a step-by-step explanation of how you envision your design to (possibly) work. I look forward to learning more!

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[solardark]

As promised, an explanation of the way it's meant to work. Thought the first set of pictures were sufficient to show the general idea. i guess my pictures aren't worth their thousand words.

First I need to name all the parts so that things don't get mixed up. Pic 7 shows the four main parts of the system; the magnets, the main supports, the slider guides and a slider (inset).

There are 12 magnets, 2 frames and 6 sliders corresponding to the six radial arms. That can be verified in pic 2. I have labelled each of the slider guides A - F starting with the shortest in the bunch.

Assuming the system starts in the position shown in pic 7, the moment produced by guide D about the pivot of the slider guides would be greater than that produced by guide A. Moments in guides B and E would be equal just like in C and F.

The system starts to turn with the moment in A remaining constant while that in D diminishes in a cosine fashion. This continues until F clears the lower corner of the main frames.

Once F is on the vertical side, it’s moment also becomes constant while the moment in C keeps rising in a cosine fashion. In essence, there would be two arms on the left generating moments that are larger than what the two arms on the right are producing.

This system is meant to keep moving until A clears the higher corner and it’s moment becomes equal to that of D again. In which case, the imbalance between C and F should keep the system going.

Of course all these degrees of motion are possible only because the sliders allow the magnets to move back and forth relative to the slide guides. Plus the only magnetic parts of the system will be the main frames. Everything else should be non-magnetic

@Cherryman... that’s true. It’s essentally the same principle. What do you mean by ‘testdrived’? These things should be built and verified. I really wish i’d paid more attention while we were taking workshop classes. My loss I guess!!

Please everyone now's the time that your comments really matter. You know what it's all about. If someone builds and proves it doesn't work then we'll all know one more way not to try making gravity motors and we can all turn our minds to other options.