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Would a self looping SMOT be proof of OU?

Started by billmehess, January 30, 2011, 02:55:12 PM

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Would you consider a closed loop smot something that could be marketed

Yes
14 (82.4%)
No
3 (17.6%)

Total Members Voted: 17

ramset

XS
You're one of the brightest members we have here,If you couldn't think of a way to make money,[I'm sure you spent ALOT of time thinking on this}!
Then it must be a real problem!

Myself I never give it much thought,[making money on FE]
But an open source venue is not the best place to explore the Finance side of OU.

Of Course you could always share?? ;D

Tell Stefan you will share the "Basic" idea here,
On the premise that when we get it making power ,you get the prize money?
?
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Low-Q

Quote from: billmehess on January 30, 2011, 02:55:12 PM
The topic is the question. Please weigh in on this, any comments would be appreciated.
Bill
IF you can loop a SMOT, and IF it works, even with friction, it would definitely be a proof ov OU. This far no one has prooved that SMOT can deliver excess energy - not even a small portion. No matter how perfect the design are, a SMOT can not achieve greater than COP 1 - at most. Which means it will stop definitely when trying to harness energy from it.

The magnetic force have no problems in pulling the ball up a gentle incline, because the force are allowed to spend a given amount of time to do it - maybe the magnets must pull 1gram for 20cm track which ends 2cm above ground. However, when the ball are on the top with respect to the gravitional field, the magnetic force are not sufficient to keep the 10gram ball from falling vertical, so the gravitional field, which is allowed to use a vertical slope to take that ball back, wins.
Imagine you are rolling a 1 ton steel ball up a gentle slope. Say you move the ball 100 meters forwards in order to get 1 meter up. You have now felt the force of 10kg against you these 100 meters. No problem. At the end of this slope there is a vertical slope downwards. One lucky bastard are told to keep that ball from falling down vertically. Who "wins"? The ball or the lucky bastard? Even if that lucky bastard will get the same amount of energy to lift that heavy ball down that 1 meter, as it took for you to roll it up that gentle slope, there is no way that lucky bastard will survive this exsercise...

The same mechanisms applies to the SMOT. What appears to be excess energy, are really not because we have to consider the spent time and force in every part of the exsercise, the conservative forces in the magnets and gravity cannot be turned on and off on demand either.

The discussion will however go on whether the SMOT can, or cannot provide excess energy.

Vidar

Omnibus

I have conclusively proved that smot producess excess energy and thus violates CoE. The fact that some people don't have basic understanding of physics which prevents then from understanding the proof doesn't make that proof one bit invalid.

maw2432

I would like to see XS's device working.   A video would have been nice but I do not think he will share.     :-[

Bill

Omnibus

Quote from: maw2432 on February 07, 2011, 06:33:34 PM
I would like to see XS's device working.   A video would have been nice but I do not think he will share.     :-[

Bill

Oh, don't ask XS that. His device is too good to be shown here.