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Muller Dynamo for experimentalists

Started by plengo, May 12, 2011, 01:04:21 AM

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nul-points

Quote from: Hoppy on June 15, 2011, 05:21:45 AM
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However, I do expect all to stop running when the stored energy within the device is exhausted. This will be manifest by a reduction in rotor speed over time.

Hoppy


hi Hoppy

i'm interested to know what stored energy you believe there to be in Romero's system


i can see that the 47000uF capcitor is one store of energy - at 12V it stores less than enough energy (approx 4 Watt-seconds) to sustain the 12W motor drive for half a second

the rotor inertia is a second store of energy - spin-down from switch-off at regular running rpm sustains rotation at a decreasing rate for around 100 seconds


what is the third (and any other) store of energy which you see as sustaining operation (with & without additional electric load) for the remaining approx 15 minute runtime during Romero's video?

15 minutes of motor drive requires an energy input of 10.8 Kilowatt-seconds

where do you see  this 10.8 Kilowatt-seconds  as being 'stored energy within the device'?


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

Hoppy

Quote from: nul-points on June 15, 2011, 06:46:00 AM

hi Hoppy

i'm interested to know what stored energy you believe there to be in Romero's system


i can see that the 47000uF capcitor is one store of energy - at 12V it stores less than enough energy (approx 4 Watt-seconds) to sustain the 12W motor drive for half a second

the rotor inertia is a second store of energy - spin-down from switch-off at regular running rpm sustains rotation at a decreasing rate for around 100 seconds


what is the third (and any other) store of energy which you see as sustaining operation (with & without additional electric load) for the remaining approx 15 minute runtime during Romero's video?

15 minutes of motor drive requires an energy input of 10.8 Kilowatt-seconds

where do you see  this 10.8 Kilowatt-seconds  as being 'stored energy within the device'?


thanks
np

http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Hi np,

No more than you have stated, which is why I see all replications running down to a stop.

Hoppy


nul-points

Quote from: Hoppy on June 15, 2011, 06:55:27 AM
Hi np,

No more than you have stated, which is why I see all replications running down to a stop.

Hoppy

?!?


what i stated accounts for much less than 100-and-a-half seconds of operation


i asked you where you see the OTHER 10.8 Kilowatt-seconds being stored in Romero's system, which is how much stored energy would be required to  keep it operational for the remaining 900 seconds of his video?

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

Hoppy

Quote from: nul-points on June 15, 2011, 07:10:08 AM
?!?


what i stated accounts for much less than 100-and-a-half seconds of operation


i asked you where you see the OTHER 10.8Kilowatt-seconds being stored in Romero's system, which is how much stored energy would be required to  keep it operational for the remaining 900 seconds of his video?


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

In a dipole.

Hoppy

nul-points

"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra