PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

  Funny how after so many years we still can't replicate the Moray device, that knowledge died with him. Thank you for bringing it up.
 
  Dr. Stiffler has made a self running device using three small coils, a tiny capacitor, and a ground connection, only.  No batteries, at all.   It does not seam to output much power to light an led,  but it's a start.
  There is no device that is really "self running", as they are all run on some type of energy conversion process.  Misnomers don't help to understand the cause of the effect generation.

Yes, it appears Dr. Moray's "invention" -- the key to it -- died with him.... as far as I can tell, although his son claims to have "notes".

WRT the run of my DUT with a battery, I ended that after three days and already presented the data (several pages back).   The battery voltage dropped very little.   I needed to do other tests with the circuit, which I felt more important than just running with a battery on and on.

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  Dr. Stiffler has made a self running device using three small coils, a tiny capacitor, and a ground connection, only.  No batteries, at all.  -- Nick"

Is there a link regarding his device?  thanks.

[xee2]

If the source of energy is within the system, by redesigning the system the same performance can be obtained without the use of the antennae.

I do not believe the energy was coming from the antenna. Unfortunately no one thought to disconnect the antenna and see if the device still delivered power. With this much power coming down the antenna wire it would have been very dangerous and produce sparks when connected and disconnected.

[nul-points]

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NP -- thanks so much for sending your DUT for testing
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you're welcome - i hope it's a useful addition to your set of circuits for the thermal testing

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The "rectifier" was evidently Moray's doped-germanium crystal (?) -- remember, this was before the days of the transistor even.  I wonder if that coil was bifilar?

Does anyone understand this? or know how high the frequency was? :

there doesn't appear to be much to go on wrt to operating parameters

Fletcher raises the question as to whether the energy is 'within the system' or not

the antenna length suggests that any frequency being 'received' is most likely in one of the Short-Wave bands - unlikely that this would be the source of the full energy o/p, otherwise Radio Hams around the world would have had their heads fried by now!

i'd hazard a guess to say that the antenna is either a 'diversion', to help keep his secret safe -  or that the small amount of energy received is used as an i/p to a different 'mechanism' within the system which merely uses the received frequency to modulate, or invert, the true power o/p so that it can be handled by conventional tube power-amp techniques and be transformed to the required o/p conditions

both of these answers suggest that the power is 'within', as i think Fletcher may have suspected

[EDIT: just seen your later post re: antenna - i believe he did demonstrate that disconnecting the antenna stopped the o/p - but of course this test would still not discriminate between the antenna receiving the full i/p power or just a 'modulating' signal to drive a power inverter]

the fact that Moray was only concerned to withold information about something smaller than his hand suggests that the power source, if conventional, could be 'nuclear' in nature  (or aetheric, if unconventional!)

fascinating - but unlikely to be resolved, i feel
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[gyulasun]

I do not believe the energy was coming from the antenna. Unfortunately no one thought to disconnect the antenna and see if the device still delivered power. With this much power coming down the antenna wire it would have been very dangerous and produce sparks when connected and disconnected.

Hi,

While I also believe the kiloWatts did not come via the antenna (and the ground) wire, reports by witnesses clearly included when either the antenna  (or the ground) wire was disconnected, the output power ceased.
You can read this here (paragraph starting with: Mr Moray removed his equipment from the automobil) :
http://merlib.org/node/5238 

Quote: "After tuning in for slightly more than 10 minutes the key or switch was put on the operating post and the light appeared immediately. While the lights were burning, the antenna lead-in wire was disconnected from the apparatus and the lights went out. Connected again and the light re-appeared. Moray disconnected the "ground wire" and the lights went out. He then re-connected it and the lights appeared again."

Some people hypotese Moray tuned in a not-man-made radiation with his several stages of resonant circuits, the antenna and the ground was the very first stage, followed by several high frequency selective LC circuits which was separated by the special 'diodes' (to prevent power feeding backwards) and after transformation to lower voltages a single special 'power diode' (what he did not let anyone examine) 'coupled out' the energy.  Some others think the diode (or the resonant circuits) was 'treated' with weak radioactive material. 
One thing is certain, Dr Stiffler demonstrated that with 2 and 3 coupled resonant passive LC circuits a LED diode is lit when they connected to a ground wire. (I do not assume those solenoid coils received broadcast AM stations energy...)

Gyula

EDIT: here is another useful reading: http://www.svpvril.com/Moray.html

[xee2]

While I also believe the kiloWatts did not come via the antenna (and the ground) wire, reports by witnesses clearly included when either the antenna  (or the ground) wire was disconnected, the output power ceased.

Thanks for the info.