PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

  Thanks, Prato -- will look at these soon.

  I've purchased several sizes of nanocrystalline/amorphous cores, as shown in attached photo.

My small ferrite toroids, used in JT and sj1 circuits as described above, have approximately 100 uH (as in micro).  Today I bifilar-wound the white nano-core (permeability = 70,000) with 18 AWG wire, 200" 37 double-turns (74 total turns).  For this, L = 285 mH (as in milli). 

Interesting that each single wire on the nano-toroid gives L = 99 mH, so together in bifilar configuration, L= 285 mH is more than twice the L of a single winding alone. 

   The bigger toroid has 534 uH; iron-powder IIRC.    Clearly the material in the core changes things dramatically.

Now to play with this new bifilar-wound toroid...    I configured it such that it could be used in JT/sj1-type circuits AND possibly also to test Gabriel-type devices... 

[gyulasun]

... 
Today I bifilar-wound the white nano-core (permeability = 70,000) with 18 AWG wire, 200" 37 double-turns (74 total turns).  For this, L = 285 mH (as in milli). 

Interesting that each single wire on the nano-toroid gives L = 99 mH, so together in bifilar configuration, L= 285 mH is more than twice the L of a single winding alone. 
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Hi Steven,

If you twist the two wires and wind the core with the twisted wire pair, then the resulting L could be even higher, up to 4 times of the single wire of 99mH  in your above example i.e. 4*99=396mH in an ideal case where coupling between the wires were just 1 (in practice coupling 'k' is anywhere between 0.5-0.95 or so).
Here is a good link for those wishing to know the explanation why this is so:
http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/inductor/series-inductors.html  go down to 'Mutually connected inductors in series'.
Regarding the k coupling, here is info:
http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/inductor/mutual-inductance.html and go down to the bottom of the page.

rgds,  Gyula

[jbignes5]

I also would like to throw in a blurb about what they are doing on energetic forum about the crystal batteries.

http://www.slideshare.net/siddharth4mba/boron-4825407

This might give you some insight into the main component of what they are doing. Boron is the key element and is concentrated in the crystal formations they are using. Very ingenious if you ask me!

[JouleSeeker]

Thanks, Jbignes5 -- I'll take a closer look!  fun stuff.

Dr. Jones: Would you not consider on your list Donald Smith device (mod. by Zilano on Energetic forum), since he could get an OP around 10 KV in a close loop?

    Viny

Follow-up on this effort -- Zilano said she was leaving a few days ago.   (Said she was an "alien" and earlier said she was 14 years old.)  Yesterday and today people are reporting that her posts are being deleted at Energetic forum.
Aaron responded (today):

this thread  I have received a few messages about some pages "disappearing". This has nothing to do with the moderators of Energetic Forum.

The only thing I see are message that have been deleted by the very member(s) who posted them. If someone deletes a message that they posted, that is their right.

My suggestion is to make a copy of anything of interest while you see it in case it ever does get deleted.

Furthermore, a major replicator of Zilano/Smith's device reports today:

Ok, my third video still no ou yet, at least I don't think so. As you can see in the video I'm nowhere near the output that a 6 watt bulb should have....

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-21.html

It's not looking too good right now for the Zilano/ Don Smith claims...  sigh   
Unless, she was "told to shut up..."  I guess that's also possible. sigh again...

[JouleSeeker]

   From what I've learned over the past year or so on this and related forums, it seems the following have the greatest hope for early success -- and frankly, I'm not so sure this tail-spinning economy is going to fly much longer, so I sense some urgency in our joint efforts:

(No particular order)

1.  Joule Thief/ sj1 - style circuits -- the main subject of this thread.  Thanks to Nul-pts for his tenacity on this one!

2.  Gabriel and Thane-Heins bi-toroidal transformer approaches

3.  Motor-generators,  Adams, RomeroUK, Bedini, Konehead, Muller, etc.

4.  Tesla-Brandt switches

5.  Tesla coil approaches

(The above appear to have in common collapsing fields/switching) 

6.  Gravity/motion devices

Comments solicited on which path (or describe another!) --  is "most likely to succeed for mankind in a hurry"!

About #3 above, I follow the RomeroUK/Muller thread from time to time, and on 15 Sept 2011, RomeroUK responded to a question regarding who was getting close with this device:

Mariuscivic and toranarod  are close enough.Both will have to concentrate to get the effect at lower speed. After a certain rpm you will have no gain then again at the next step will have again and so on...

Example: if starting the effect at 1000 rpm then the gain is going to vanish at 1600rpm then we can get it again starting at 2000rpm... at one point in every cycle voltage drops down even if the rpm is going high.We are getting multiple resonance points and not all are the seme, some are better than others. This is only one example, don't take for real and start looking to have 1000rpm...
Now I am not looking to get the speedup too much, I want the rpm to stay stable at any load or short. I am going to have it confirmed when I will finish my new generator, towards the end of this month.

Romero

I take it from this that there are 2 replicators who are "close" -- but evidently not "there" yet, and that Romero himself is building a "new generator".  Interesting...

SO ...  the problem seems to be in getting successful replications, even with MONTHS of work by replicators. 
I'm still waiting for a SUCCESSFUL replication of the Gabriel device and the Tesla Switch ...  If any of you hear of such successes, pls let us know here, as it's difficult to keep up with all the working threads.
--Steve