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Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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samedsoft


@Thane,

  I would like to thank you as well, you have already opened a gate to new era. No body can slime on it...

  Can you comment a solid-state version of this effect?

  Like strong electromagnet coil is used inside of the coils, rather than magnet passing through on the top?

  I cant understand how delayed lenz effect accelerates shaft? While electron flow on the loading coil does is not affected???

  I need to understand in terms of magnetic field creation and collapse terminology...

  Hoping to hear from you..

  Best Regards

  Nuri Temürlenk, Turkey
 

Jack Noskills

Thane, have you done experiments using Litz cable in your coils ? You could make 3d bifilar windings easily and try different winding styles. Litz comes in many flavours, even rectangular Litz is available.

Have you tried running two currents in the same core in opposite direction at the same time (assuming you are using a core) ? Now you wonder, if currents come from same source they would cancel out each other in the same core. Yes, but using your idea from mary-jo where those currents belong to different sources they would amplify each other while power is taken from them. You would need three cores for this, two for getting two currents from single source then one output core that combines those currents. With Litz wire this would be a joy to test.

If you find above test setup unclear just ask and I will explain in more detail. I have made a short explanation sort of document about this but haven't been able to test the whole setup yet. But you know the back EMF amplification works because you figured it out and I just copied from you, with a couple of twists tho  :D.

Jack Noskills

Read whole thread now and I see the 'problem'. Here is what I came up with,

You take nanoperm toroid with high permeability, divide it in four sections and wound a coil in every even section. So there is space between sections. The magnets you would divide also in four sections, one section facing N, empty section, third section facing S and empty section.
This toroid would then be set so that the rotor is inside, those magnets would sweep inside of the toroid. When motor runs then at any point in time magnets sweep the coils in such a way that each coil gets only hits from magnet facing N or S. Never two at the same time.
This would generate current in those coils in so that when power is taken they would also amplify each other. Nanoperm or maybe even iron would keep the field within itself so there would be no drag. Also the field of a toroid is such that it would not affect the magnets in any way.

Well, this would not generate the delayed Lenz effect but would make an interesting experiment.

CRANKYpants

Quote from: Overunityguide on September 14, 2011, 03:24:00 AM
@Thane, Thank you for replying and sharing the fact that you use bi-filar wound series connected generator coils in your most recent setup. (I guess many readers didn't even saw this...) I can imagine that this will increase the capacitance of the coil through higher potential differences in the coil it's internal adjacent wires.

Bi-filar wound series connected generator coils increase coil capacitance by 200% or more...

If you replace your 380 ohm monster coil with a bi-filar series connected generator coil you ought to be able to get similar results with (I'm guessing) 10 ohms of 20 gauge wire?

from Physics of the Fuelless Generator;

Tesla's new "generator" can be explained solely on the basis of its electrical activity. A bifilar coil is capable of holding more charge than a single wound coil. When operated at resonance, the distributed capacitance of the bifilar coil is able to overcome the counter force normal to coils, inductive reactance. It does not allow what Tesla described (Tesla, 1894) as the formation of "false currents."

Because the electrical activity in the coil does not work against itself in the form of a counter-emf, the potential across the coil quickly builds to a high value. The difference between the turns becomes great enough that (Tesla, 1892) "the energy would be practically all potential." At this point, the system becomes an electrostatic oscillator.

Minimal work is done in the system due to absence of translational movement in the displacement current. As small heat losses occur, oscillations are maintained by the surplus charge stored in the coil. Very low energy expenditure allows power delivery to a load over an extended time period without an external fuel supply.

Cheers
T

CRANKYpants

Quote from: Jack Noskills on September 14, 2011, 07:03:59 AM
Thane, have you done experiments using Litz cable in your coils ? You could make 3d bifilar windings easily and try different winding styles. Litz comes in many flavours, even rectangular Litz is available.

GOTOLUC SPENT TWO DAYS MAKING A 100 STRAND LITZ COIL HURT HIS BACK DOING IT AND ALMOST HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN IN THE PROCESS  :P (SEE THANE HEINS PEREPITEIA THREAD)

QuoteHave you tried running two currents in the same core in opposite direction at the same time (assuming you are using a core) ? Now you wonder, if currents come from same source they would cancel out each other in the same core.

NOT TRUE... YOU CANNOT USE ONE MAGNETIC FIELD TO CANCEL ANOTHER.
THE (NET) FLUX IN THE CORE WOULD BE ZERO HOWEVER BUT THE MAGNETIC FIELDS WOULD STILL BE THERE BUT THE WIRES WOULD BE REPELLING EACH OTHER.

http://www.stmary.ws/highschool/physics/home/notes/electricity/magnetism/MagForcesBetweenWires.htm

THE CURRENTS WOULD CANCEL IF YOU CONNECTED THE WIRES TOGETHER THOUGH.

CHEERS
T