Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[Magluvin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFGiEQecEsQ

Skycollection ( http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection ) has published the new video above.

Again he does not do any conclusive input and output measurements. Very strange, because that would be a straight forward thing to do.

Greetings, Conrad

Well something is weird. The big battery to the right seems to be connected to the cap and the meter is measuring the battery? The battery starts off at 11.1v. That is completely discharged, as  far as  useful charge as it was intended.

That is the reason it can be taken to 29v.  And then it even stays near 20v after the gen motor is stopped. That tells me the battery is in terrible shape and the cap is "trying to hold' the charge but it is leaked into the battery, and the battery doesnt seem to want much of it as slowly as the voltage is dropping, or the cap/battery voltage would have dropped down to at least something over 11.1v pretty quickly.

Its a shame that some show so much but it all remains a mystery.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Its a shame that some show so much but it all remains a mystery.

Mags

Until someone who understands these things figures it out. 

Other than the battery being toast(looks new though) that cap may look large, but knowing those types, and what range of capacitance they are, I dont see anything very exciting about the level of charge happening. The Voltage would be more if the dead battery were not in the circuit.

Mags

[Farmhand]

Well something is weird. The big battery to the right seems to be connected to the cap and the meter is measuring the battery? The battery starts off at 11.1v. That is completely discharged, as  far as  useful charge as it was intended.

That is the reason it can be taken to 29v.  And then it even stays near 20v after the gen motor is stopped. That tells me the battery is in terrible shape and the cap is "trying to hold' the charge but it is leaked into the battery, and the battery doesnt seem to want much of it as slowly as the voltage is dropping, or the cap/battery voltage would have dropped down to at least something over 11.1v pretty quickly.

Its a shame that some show so much but it all remains a mystery.

Mags

Yeah I agree Mags, the battery is badly sulfated or damaged and if he does not mention that in the video he is either very uninformed of being deceptive.
I also seen nothing in the video to indicate and miraculous charge rate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFGiEQecEsQ

Looks to me like he is a neat experimenter, but doesn't understand what he is doing/seeing or he is deceptive/misleading.

Basically I would not watch any more video's without being very very skeptical.

If he wants people to not question him he should not make video's.

The result we see in the video is perfectly normal behavior for a badly sulfated battery fed energy from a coil discharge. That is the effect the video shows.

The cap is probably there because without it being there the voltage generated at his drain or collector pins would destroy them
due to the battery not being able to take on the energy quick enough. As many of us know quite well. We've seen the same effect.
That is why neons are used between the collector and emitter  pins on desufator circuits, because if the battery is too badly sulfated
the developed voltage will usually damage the transistors. Adding a large capacitor across the charge battery is common practice for
when a battery is so sulfated the safety neons fire continuously.

Haven't we moved past pulse motors and sulfated battery effects ?

I'm not attacking him either just making observations.

Cheers

P.S. Isn't this getting way off topic. It has as much to do with "Delayed Lenz Effect". It's a pulse motor trying to charge a badly sulfated battery.

What exactly was he claiming for the video ? I don't see any "new" inductors.

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[Magluvin]

Yeah I agree Mags, the battery is badly sulfated or damaged and if he does not mention that in the video he is either very uninformed of being deceptive.
I also seen nothing in the video to indicate and miraculous charge rate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFGiEQecEsQ

Looks to me like he is a neat experimenter, but doesn't understand what he is doing/seeing or he is deceptive/misleading.

Basically I would not watch any more video's without being very very skeptical.

If he wants people to not question him he should not make video's.

The result we see in the video is perfectly normal behavior for a badly sulfated battery fed energy from a coil discharge. That is the effect the video shows.

The cap is probably there because without it being there the voltage generated at his drain or collector pins would destroy them
due to the battery not being able to take on the energy quick enough. As many of us know quite well. We've seen the same effect.
That is why neons are used between the collector and emitter  pins on desufator circuits, because if the battery is too badly sulfated
the developed voltage will usually damage the transistors. Adding a large capacitor across the charge battery is common practice for
when a battery is so sulfated the safety neons fire continuously.

Haven't we moved past pulse motors and sulfated battery effects ?

I'm not attacking him either just making observations.

Cheers

P.S. Isn't this getting way off topic. It has as much to do with "Delayed Lenz Effect". It's a pulse motor trying to charge a badly sulfated battery.

What exactly was he claiming for the video ? I don't see any "new" inductors.

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Hey Farmhand

Yeah, I always looked up to his builds, and so many. But its a bit of a tease at times, where it possibly looks like something 'real good' but never any answers to 'real questions'

I can see that he has done just about every variety, style and some new ideas in his builds, so I think he knows what is going on within his circuits, at the least by now.

Im not sure what he intended to show in the vid as a result being the voltage reading of what I see. But if I had to guess, from what I see, it seems like a bit of transparent trickery. 

Mags

[ALVARO_CS]

sorry for the delay in answering
no video cam available and I do not like to post videos neither,  for a main reason: I am very short in measurement knowledge, therefore, I am unsure of the results gotten from many of the experiments done . .  so the least thing I want is to mislead or give false info, as I have poor measurement equipment even no oscope.
I am here mainly to learn, and something I found very often, is people showing videos with no specs nor schematics and many of them showing only voltages but no Amps, which is very frustrating.
IMO measurement of output pulsed DC without a scope originates many wrong conclusions, as well as batteries behavior.
Anyway, taking constructive criticism as an attack is just a childish behavior. . . . so your considerations about the attached pic are very welcomed.
Is just to clarify what I meant for a "sliding coil" in my previous post.
If any is interested I may post as many specs or schematics as required. Of course I insist in the poor measurement subject.
The motor type Adams is driven by 2 hand made electromagnets, a reed switch and a 2N3055 transistor.
I just placed a voltage divider before the reed input as to elongate its life, using just a small current/voltage at the transitor base.(I know this way is not efficient because of resistance looses)
It works from 3V to12V. (but at 12V the trans. gets warm, so I use 6V as average input, the mA input varies also)
Average rpm at 6V- 500mA: 3600 rpm.
About the sliding coils, I tested many, mainly tesla series bifilar ones (solenoid) and mainly with 3500 turns, the higher output voltage was fitting the output coil physicaly closer to the driving coil, but average Amps were always quite low. Very easy to load many leds but very weak with resistive loads.
The lack of a Scope, do not allows for an accurate search for the resonant condition. I go as far as I can.
Cheers
edit-forgot to say: no input or rpm changes perceptible at any loading condition.