FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[Gwandau]

@maw2432

As far as I am concerned, the editor of New Energy Times, Steven B. Krivit is a man not to be taken too seriously,
since his actions against the validity of Andrea Rossi's invention has gone very personal and resulted in several unfounded and
deceitful accusations created in the sole intention to discredit Andrea Rossi at all costs.
In this case Krivit is trying to defame Andrea Rossi once again by using this information in a negative way.
The second link of yours clears that up.

But the fact that this change from National Instruments into other suppliers was demanded by the secret 1MW buyer makes me worried.
It looks more and more like the worst case scenario I have expressed earlier, namely that Mr Rossi is slowly and delicately hoodwinked away from
his course.  Just like they once did with Victor Schauberger, they may right now steal away all his dreams, leaving him a distrusted and lonely man,
accused by many as being a fraud.  Signs like the NI suddenly not admitting that they have been working with Andrea Rossi points in that direction.

I really hope not, but there seems to be powers at work now, acting out in the interests of so called national security.


Gwandau

[Gwandau]

Dear Rosemary,

I am really not on anyones side here, but it comes to my mind that string theory is just as theoretical as any other theory presented here at the forum.
String theory has actually been criticized in the scientific community for not providing novel experimental predictions at accessible energy scales,
and seem to have evolved within a closed mathematical system, creating new paradoxes for every step taken, going from clarity to complexity instead of the other way around.

I am not really sure that contemporary science is on the right track. This may be big words coming out of a nobody like me, but all the big questions are
still unanswered, and what Albert Einstein, Werner Heisenberg, Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli and Niels Borh and the other guys started to theorize in the twenties
really has not gotten any clearer today. To the contrary, every new empirical finding creates even more paradoxes.

To me it looks like our scientists are very skilled in making accurate observations, but if the very outlook from where we do these observations
is situated on an inefficient level of view, everything we observe becomes a puzzling maze.

Just like the time before Copernicus, when all the Astronomers were extremely accurately observing the movements of the celestial bodies.
But since they all based their observations upon the fact that our world was rigidly poised as the center of the universe, all the orbits of
the surrounding planets was depicted as strangely spiralling trajectories that due to unknown causes sometimes even mysteriously changed direction.

But suddenly, when we started to view things from a higher perspective, everything fell into place, and the movements of the celestial bodies became harmonic.

What I am trying to say is, the world as we know it is right now going through a change.

Andrea Rossi and the Cold Fusion Movement is but one of the signs.

And it may come as a total surprise to many people, but the LENR effect is a portal to a completely new understanding of our reality.
Our greatest contemporary scientists will not be able to solve this riddle, just as the people before Copernicus was unable to do.

Our new Paradigm Shifters will come forth from the unorthodox thinkers, just like the uneducated Albert Einstein once did and changed our world.

Of course a theory has to be validated to gain momentum.
Of course none of us proposing to have the answer has managed to do this.
But likewise the String theory still has to be validated, in all its impressive mathemathical complexity.

So my advise to everyone here at the OU forum and elsewhere:

Stay open minded and never invite the ego to the party.

We are all here for the same reason

Gwandau

[Rosemary Ainslie]

I'd like to suggest people take their theorizing about how these devices might work to another thread, and leave this one to serve its original purpose as a venue for relaying news about the bringing of these devices to market.

No disrespect intended towards any of the proponents of any of the conflicting theories, but when you start arguing and insulting each other that itself is showing disrespect to everyone else who has to witness it.  If it's that important to you, take it outside as it were and start another thread that others don't have to see if they don't want to. 

I don't think there's any harm in posting links here to theoretical information on other threads or websites that others can follow if they're interested, but this thread in the news section isn't the place for debating or arguing or trying to educate others about the theoretical science behind how the subject of this news thread works.

Thanks for your consideration.   

IWH - contrary to your claim here - THERE IS NO DEBATE OR ARGUMENT RELATED TO EDUCATING ANYONE AT ALL.  What has occurred is the CONTINUAL attempt by Gravock to degenerate this thread into a discussion on LENR.  And this in the face of my REPEATED requests that he desist.  May I remind you.

...It is my opinion that we would do MUCH BETTER to confine ourselves to experimental progress of this with an aim to finding some catalysts that may advance the process.  And just leave the theory to to unfold from that evidence.  That way we're not confronting or affronting any of our experts.  Otherwise this thread will regress to that parade of nonsense that so many of these theoretical threads revert to.  And they're always just a parade of our general arrogance as well as a parade of our lack of knowledge.  And frankly, our forums need to do better - if we're to make any real contribution to this unfolding.  And we need to.  Because I think that if we're to benefit from abundant energy then we need to know as much as possible about it.  Otherwise the knowledge and its applications will again be usurped by the expert.  And we know how they abuse that position of expertise.

Regards,
Rosemary

That is all that I've been saying with varying levels of 'tact' from the inception of my dialogue with Gravock.  HAD I attempted to advance any particular thesis at all - then I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AMBIGUOUS.  Feel free to give me advice.  But I'm not sure that it's appropriate when it is PRECISELY what I, myself, was ADVISING.

Regards,
Rosemary.

I actually de-registered from this thread.  For some reason it hasn't taken.

[teslaalset]

Steven B. Krivit is mainly zooming into the negative sides of Rossi for some reason.
Krivit is right about having doubts on Rosi's demo + calculations of last summer where Krivit was present. The actual steam production shown did not represent Rossi's claim of having 7 liters of water converted into steam in one hour.
But that is only one aspect of quite a number of facts that Rossi's has shown. If Krivit wants to deny Rossi's big progress on LENR, he must be blind. Soon Defkalion will show results and I am pretty confident that is the necessary next step in convincing people what is happening.

The fact that Rossi's company Leornardo Corp. changed it's control supplier does not mean it's negative news.
There's more going on with Leordando Corp. I noticed that the applicant of Rossi's patent EP2259998 has been changed recently from his wife's name to Leonardo Corp (source: European Patent Register), meaning the owner of the patent is now Leonardo Corp.
There is clearly a new investment construction created related to Leornardo Corp, which makes a lot of sense looking to Rossi's ambitions.

[Gwandau]

Teslaalset,

I really hope you are right concerning the reason for AR to change supplier.
As long as his invention is still unknown to the majority, he is an easy target if measures are decided to be taken aginst him.

It all depends on the outcome of the decisions taken by the people responsible for the national security the moment they see the gravity of the situation.

Is his invention possible to incorporate seamlessly into the present monetary and social strucure, or is it a potential threat to stability?

If the latter alternative becomes obvious, he is out of business one way or the other, alive or dead.
That's why it is extremely important for anyone that succeeds in replicating this technique to get his/her findings out as open source.

This is a to big thing to mess around with for personal gain, and Andrea Rossi is playing a game with players far more resourceful than him.

Why even bother about money, this invention will in the long run make money completely useless!

Gwandau