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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

gravityblock

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 19, 2012, 03:55:52 PM
My dear Gravock.  If this is the result of the creation and then the annihilation of matter and anti-matter then we have not get the required level of heat in that interaction.  I had no idea that Rossi is claiming this.  If he is - then I'm wrong.  Because he certainly knows knows what he's doing.  He's not a amateur.  And nor are his colleagues.  But I think I'd like to see this claim in writing - somewhere. 

Unbelievable.  You want to see Rossi's claim in writing somewhere?  I've already provided you with this in an article found on PESN titled, "Momentous Breakthroughs Announced During Anniversary E-Cat Interview".  Maybe you should re-read the article.  If not, then you can look at the below quote as found on PESN.  Are you even paying attention?

Quote from: PESN
GAMMA RADIATION AND ANTI-MATTER -- The E-Cat technology produces low energy gamma radiation that is converted into heat inside of the reactor. The signature of the gamma radiation that has been detected is said to be 511 keV at 180 degrees. These gamma rays are thought to be produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other. So, if we understand correctly, Rossi theorizes that inside of the E-Cat there are anti-matter/matter annihilation taking place, releasing energy. However, he stated this is just a side effect of what really takes place, which he has previously indicated is nuclear fusion.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

teslaalset

Gravock,  I need quite a bit more time to digest the essentials you are highlighting here (with many thanks for doing that!).
To bypass my delayed understanding, do you think direct conversion into electrical current instead of heat is feasible with similar processes like using Ni+H2?


Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: PESNGAMMA RADIATION AND ANTI-MATTER -- The E-Cat technology produces low energy gamma radiation that is converted into heat inside of the reactor. The signature of the gamma radiation that has been detected is said to be 511 keV at 180 degrees. These gamma rays are thought to be produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other. So, if we understand correctly, Rossi theorizes that inside of the E-Cat there are anti-matter/matter annihilation taking place, releasing energy. However, he stated this is just a side effect of what really takes place, which he has previously indicated is nuclear fusion.

That's also what I read.  I see nothing here that states that we are relying on an electron/positron interaction to account for LENR.  There is only the proposal that it may partially account for this interaction IF this is happening.  And IF this is to be advanced as an explanation of heat signatures of the LENR interaction  - then it would also need to correspond to the post interaction waste.  And we have been assured that there are no unstable elements.  Which implies that those elements have a consistent ratio between their proton and electron count. 

What you are advancing is the notion that there is an entire reliance on the manufacture of positrons - that then interact with electrons - to account for the whole of the anomalous heat signatures related to LENR.  Not only is this still speculative electron/positron proposal simply theorised - but nor does it account for the indisputable evidence of the transmutation of elements that can only be attributed to a nuclear interaction.  And that there are these resulting elements requires a 'conservation' of the electrons and the protons from the original elements.   

Gravock,  I'm telling you what I think.  Or as I understand this.  And I'm only saying this in the first instance - because you're trying to advance a theory on LENR.  And I think it's much more important that we look at the whole picture.  Otherwise we'll be inclined to force the facts to fit the theory.  And I think we've had enough of that to date - to know better to do it again.

Just my opinion.
Regards,
Rosemary

gravityblock

Quote from: teslaalset on February 19, 2012, 04:27:45 PM
Gravock,  I need quite a bit more time to digest the essentials you are highlighting here (with many thanks for doing that!).
To bypass my delayed understanding, do you think direct conversion into electrical current instead of heat is feasible with similar processes like using Ni+H2?

I believe LENR isn't needed to accomplish this.  Dr. Stiffler's SEC is doing this by itself at lower energies to light many LED's.  An aluminum mass amplifies the effect.  However, it would be extremely dangerous to operate the SEC at higher energy levels.  Operating at higher energy levels in the SEC will more than likely generate high level gamma radiation instead of the low level gamma radiation generated in the e-Cat, which is mostly confined inside the atoms and the rest (an extremely small amount) is contained inside the reactor.  Also, an e-Cat operating at higher energies, will need more shielding.  Nuclear Power Plants have more shielding, so they could operate at the higher energy levels without the dangers. I believe the e-Cats will stay small, while chaining many small e-Cats together for higher energy output.    The SEC can also operate at lower energies with many SEC's chained together for higher energy output without the dangers of high level gamma radiation if the necessary precautions are taken.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Tomorrow, I'll be going out of town for personal reasons.  I'm not sure when I'll be back.  Hopefully I'll only be gone for a few days.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.