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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Rosemary Ainslie

more of the same/...

Quote from: gravityblock on February 19, 2012, 06:16:42 PMA similar process will occur with the W-Z particles and weak nuclear force as it did with the electron-positron particles and electromagnetic force.  When the W-Z particles (similar to photons, but much heavier) decrement in frequency, then this imparts acceleration and momentum to the neutrons-protons.  The movement of the neutrons-protons will be a helical motion which cancels the charge on one side according to it's rotation direction.
This is psychobabble.  Utterly pretentious nonsense.  It's meaningless. 

Quote from: gravityblock on February 19, 2012, 06:16:42 PMIf a neutron is changed into a proton, then it will be displaced by the coulomb forces and change it's configuration to a proton. If a proton is changed into a neutron, then it will be displaced by the coulomb forces and change it's configuration to that of a neutron.
WHEN in the history of science generally - and particle physics SPECIFICALLY has there ever been any evidence of a proton 'changed' as you put it - to a neutron?  Are you even aware of the reason that this CANNOT HAPPEN?   Are you even aware of the absurdity of this proposal?  And why?

Quote from: gravityblock on February 19, 2012, 06:16:42 PMThis causes a transmutation in the elements (the second main role for the catalyst is a neutron-proton source, and without it the weak nuclear reactions won't occur and repeat itself).
More unadulterated nonsense

Quote from: gravityblock on February 19, 2012, 06:16:42 PMI would seriously take a look at lead and/or other heavy elements which are safe along with aluminum.  I'm using this analogy because the weak nuclear force is similar to the electromagnetic force in many ways, but in reality an up quark will be flipped to a down quark, or vice-versa, changing it from a neutron to a proton or a proton into a neutron.  The neutrons-protons aren't actually accelerated, but one of the 3 quarks which make up the neutrons-protons are flipped when enough momentum is imparted to it.  Also, when a neutron or proton changes into the other, it will emit W or Z particles to repeat the process. As long as the heat is stored and maintained, then the process is self-feeding for the weak nuclear reactions also.  Then we could take this a step further and apply it to the strong nuclear force, which I believe would be anti-gravity.  Gravity is the mismatch in frequencies.
and yet more nonsense.

Gravock - I earnestly suggest that you take the trouble to apply a little contraint in this your recipe for LENR.  It is a young and emerging science that has been utterly discredited until Rossi's remarkable achievement.  If we are to advance this rather than detract from it - which is the object of this thread - then I would propose that we restrict ourselves to known nuclear interactions and work from there.  Not this pseudo intellectual pretentious meaningless nonsense.  God knows.  It'll be more than enough to justify further public rejection of any LENR claims when it's associated with this level of pseudo science.  The problem with all over unity claims to date is precisely to get them credibly presented.  And to try and present LENR in this context will most certainly have our entire science community rolling with laughter and reading here to get their daily comic relief.

I'm sorry to be this brutal.  But as you said yourself.  This subject is way too important.  Golly.  I honestly thought I could take your proposals seriously.  If this level of nonsense continues - then I'm out of here.

Regards,Rosemary

gravityblock

Harti,

You either ban me or you ban Rosemary.  I don't have time for this nonsense.  I'm going to bed.  Good night all.  Hope to be back in the next few days and I hope Harti makes the right decision.  Look who made reply# 666.  It was Rosemary of course.  This should tell you something.  In my book, this means she's against the truth.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

sm0ky2

@ rosemary

as crazy as he is,...  G.B. is one of the few people on the planet that comprehend the true nature of physical matter. There is no mass, there is only point charges of energy, in a configuration so that they interact as a capacitor, slowly draining back from whence they came.

If you change the value of their charge and quantity, they will transition into all the states of matter and anti-matter.

All of the forces - electric, magnetic, gravitational, the visual and physical aspects of the atom, are the result of the interactions of these charges. Change them, you change the atom itself.

The frequency of the radiant event, is our perceptable indicator of the state of matter. Each element, each isotope, each ionic nuclei, each electron/positron, all radiate at a distinct frequency. By altering the frequency, with the help of constructive / destructive interference of harmonic wavelengths - we also alter the magnitude of the charge, and the amplitude of the wave proportionately.

This occurs at non-harmonic wavelengths, as well, but in a much less predictable manner.
   conversly, by altering the magnitude of the charge, and the amplitude of the wave, you also change the frequency.

i have formulas for this, but i need to have some people double check/ proofread them before i go posting them around the world..
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Rosemary Ainslie

Hello Smokey,

There is not an energy enthusiast anywhere who does not subscribe to the concept of boundless energy being released through the application of resonating frequencies.  There is nothing wrong in the concept.  But that concept is just another complicated way of saying what our string and dark energy enthusiasts have been saying since 1925 or thereby.  The difference is that these theorists have the decency to propose that they do not have the full picture.  Yet here we have someone with a tenuous grasp of particle physics - advising us all not only on what to believe but who to believe.  And why?  And that 'why' is a mishmash of the most extraordinary nonsense that I've ever yet read - dressed up as 'science'.  And where he points us to is more of those pretentious and unproven theories that - with the only exception of Zdidarsic - are entirely unpublished.  The theories are all much of a muchness - again Zdidarsic excepted.  Those spirals and vortices and sundry exchanges of bosons and phonons and God knows what else - that are proposed to take place in a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second - thereby accounting for something that may or may not be attributed to the strong or weak nuclear interaction - alternately, variously, or optionally.  Thereby changing the protons to neutrons and back to protons - with all the vigour of an Olympic athlete and none of his elegance and even less of his intelligence?  It's unadulterated confusion - dressed up as intellectual pretension.  Exactly the nonsense that our detractors rely on.

It is my opinion that we would do MUCH BETTER to confine ourselves to experimental progress of this with an aim to finding some catalysts that may advance the process.  And just leave the theory to to unfold from that evidence.  That way we're not confronting or affronting any of our experts.  Otherwise this thread will regress to that parade of nonsense that so many of these theoretical threads revert to.  And they're always just a parade of our general arrogance as well as a parade of our lack of knowledge.  And frankly, our forums need to do better - if we're to make any real contribution to this unfolding.  And we need to.  Because I think that if we're to benefit from abundant energy then we need to know as much as possible about it.  Otherwise the knowledge and its applications will again be usurped by the expert.  And we know how they abuse that position of expertise.

Regards,
Rosemary

teslaalset

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 20, 2012, 12:44:05 AM
This is psychobabble.  Utterly pretentious nonsense.  It's meaningless. 
Quote
More unadulterated nonsense
and yet more nonsense.

@Rosemary,
Can you be a bit less offensive and show a bit more respect to the opinion of others?
You're derailing a very important discussion by your style of debating.