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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Rosemary Ainslie

Guys it seems that there's some evidence of moderation, - in the form of a caution.  Hopefully this will indeed, be applied.  Meanwhile, just a small reminder about the many misdirections that are heavily relied on  - please note.  I have never even THOUGHT let alone proposed that Gamma emissions comprised heavy particles. So.  TK.  Could you kindly show us all precisely where I claimed this?
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PMNotice that she doesn't say "It was wrong to insist that gammas were heavy particles, sorry, I stand corrected", nor does she even fall back on the easy excuse I gave her: "Oh, I was confusing Gamma Rays with Cosmic Rays, sorry, language barrier, mistranslation, gammas are in fact EM radiation just as TK says, I looked it up in several places and I'm convinced."
Which means that I most certainly will NOT be applying that ridiculous excuse that you seem to require.  What's more to the point as it's pertinent to this topic - is that you fail to point out that there are NO GAMMA RAY EMISSIONS from Rossi's E-cat.  I can't think why this eluded you?   

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PMRossi has gammas when they are convenient, like when he has to explain heating, where he says that the gammas (from inside) are absorbed in the lead shielding (outside) where they are converted to heat. He doesn't explain how, if lead melts at a certain temperature, he is able to heat steam to above that temperature, without having a lot of liquid lead running out all over his shoes--- except that lately, now that the temperature problem has been pointed out, he says he's using some other secret material to shield and thermalize the gammas that either are or aren't there.
It really doesn't matter to any of us what is happening in that reactor.  Other than there are NO GAMMA EMISSIONS.  There may be BETA emissions.  And they're easily shielded.

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PMBecause Rossi doesn't have gammas when they are inconvenient, like when the Florida nuclear regulatory official visited him and asked about his device, his factory, and whether it contained any hazardous material or produced any harmful radiation. "No" says Rossi, ignoring the toxicity of finely-divided nickel, the hazard of hydrogen, and the gammas that are supposed to produce his heat. Not only that, but his million-unit-per year factory moves around a lot.... first it's in Florida, then it's not in the USA at all.
There is no toxicity in 'finely-divided nickel'.  The quantities of hydrogen in the mix is NOT hazardous.

The calculations requiring 1 million units per year are claimed by both Defkalion and Rossi - and are based on the known output of a plant that will be entirely mechanised.
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PMI am sorry, but this simply isn't plausible.
Which, I would have thought, would make his predicted output rather plausible.

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 02, 2012, 04:29:29 PMIs Rossi going to ship his cold fusion reactor units, with nickel and hydrogen cartridges .... UNTESTED? And the local plumber, unlicenced as a fusion mechanic, is just going to hook it up and turn it on, and there won't be any problems. Just like when you bring home your home theater system, or your new car, or your new computer system, or your.....
I am sure that he's enough of an industrialist to know that standards would need to be checked.  And I suspect that he would know how to apply this.  And there is no reason for him to propose that he'll do more or less than what he says.  It's not as if he's looking for investment funds from anyone.  Why should he lie?

Hopefully you'll uncover more plausible explanations for your concerns related to the potential successful launch of the E-Cat which may, indeed, be as early as September this year.

Rosemary

MileHigh

Wilby:

Go find another hotspot you have been connected for too long already.  Perhaps next to the smelly dumpster behind the Denny's across town?

MileHigh

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: MileHigh on April 02, 2012, 07:32:09 PM
Wilby:

Go find another hotspot you have been connected for too long already.  Perhaps next to the smelly dumpster behind the Denny's across town?

MileHigh
how does your response address my question at all? in point of fact it does not. thus, it is a logical fallacy known as a 'red herring'... which is your usual fare milehigh, why am i not surprised? so then, i'll take your tacit refusal to answer and your last 'red herring' as evidence that you have no idea what constitutes a logical fallacy... ad hominem or otherwise.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Rosemary Ainslie

And guys, what really concerns me is that MileHigh and TK will manage to get this thread locked as well.  Sadly it's what they intend.  And they've got a history of managing this very ably.  Perhaps it would be best to let their posts just go unanswered.  Not sure what the best approach is. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Gwandau

Quote from: MileHigh on April 02, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
Gwandau:

I think that you are dreaming when you compare a low energy fusion nuclear reactor to a DVD player.  I quoted a factory production engineer about the complexities and size of the undertaking to manufacture a million units per year and based on my own personal experience he is 100% correct.


MileHigh,

you seem to miss the point,  this is not a complicated high tech product, it is actually an utterly simple combination of perfectly calibrated
parameters never earlier combined this way.  And the inventor himself has admitted that he really do not know what happens on the atomic level. 

He is just a simple engineer that finally hit the correct parameters after 18 years of continuing the old trail started by Fleishaman and Pons.

The simplicity of the e-cat is no secret. Andrea Rossi himself has given indication about the incredible simplicity of the e-cat.
The secret behind its function is due to the correct combination of catalyzers within a sealed compartment. 

It's probably just a stainless steel tube surrounded by water within a copper case with an outlet. The presence of nickel powder in combination
with hydrogen and the induction of some heat and correct electromagnetic frequency may be the only thing needed. 

Once the first e-cat reaches the market,  anybody with some basic engineer skills will be able to copy it.

So it is obviously nothing complex, just the right configuration and the right triggering mechanism.

Regarding the reason for producing those dirt cheap domestic units, I am not too sure that the only reason for the course of actions
taken by Andrea Rossi is money.

He wants to change things, and by producing home units he will start an avalanche of energy grid related changes.
I regard Andrea Rossi as a revolutionary of the modern times, speeding up the transition into the grid free society.

Gwandau