FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

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Gwandau:

Thanks for the links and the documents.  I will try to look at them.

I suppose because I find it really distasteful to see a person or corporation commit fraud and steal money from good people.  You notice that sentence is generic, I am not talking about any specific person.  If you have followed the story of free energy you will know that there are scammers that have been convicted and been sent to jail.  Then there are people that have followings that are simply pedaling snake oil.

MileHigh

I suppose you are then at this very moment looking for someone to report those HOT FUSION people to over at CERN. They have STOLEN hundreds of millions from several countries and continue to steal without end knowing very well that hot fusion can NEVER work. They cannot even solve the first step of more energy out than in and even if they do (in another ten years of course) that is only ONE hurdle. The second hurdle of how to contain the high speed neutrons has been ignored because everyone knows there is no solution.
So go for it MileHigh, get them thieves! They are stealing money from us good people!

[Maciej41]

But this is only same change, such is change as between presidents of U.S. after which all goes same path, or ruling parties in Poland, dumb change thieves and vice versa, and so on.
And dumb catholics vote for them too.

[Maciej41]

The same thing is with this device:
www.overunity.com/10213/drj200-100-cnf-reactor-for-home-use/75/
Even if it is real, 110% or 170% effectivity compared to 85% as for simple electric heater is not much worth.
Once poorer it is when we compare price for heater 25 EUR to 14.000 EUR price for this device.
Even if this can heat some 3-5.500 sqm, even 4x cheaper over gas.
http://nspap.livejournal.com/35567.html

[parisd]

Rossi lyier!

Yes, Rossi building secretly a 1 MW in the US without having his patent in hand and without license nor certification, if he was really building a secret unit in the US (why the US ?) he would not be saying that during any internet interview he would be working VERY secretly probably with the US army or eventually NASA and nobody on the net would know about it.

So Rossi is building 13 secret units and we will not know their location nor if they produce hot water, we just have to trust him blindly through internet interviews or rumors. May be all this is real or may be one day after he build up a list of let say 10 000 custumers for the 10Kw unit he will ask a 100$ advance fee from each of them to prepare licensing documentation or just to buy the components like do our dentists, and he will make his first million.

I still hope Cold fusion (and may be Rossi himself) is genuine, some universities have seen unexplained milliwatts of energy and the NASA on his side declared it useless (this is what I found on their website).

Please bring us relevant and verified information on this thread not ridiculous interviews unverifiable like the oilprice one. there should be somewhere after so many months of Rossi media presence.

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Yes, Rossi building secretly a 1 MW in the US without having his patent in hand and without license nor certification, if he was really building a secret unit in the US (why the US ?) he would not be saying that during any internet interview he would be working VERY secretly probably with the US army or eventually NASA and nobody on the net would know about it.

So Rossi is building 13 secret units and we will not know their location nor if they produce hot water, we just have to trust him blindly through internet interviews or rumors. May be all this is real or may be one day after he build up a list of let say 10 000 custumers for the 10Kw unit he will ask a 100$ advance fee from each of them to prepare licensing documentation or just to buy the components like do our dentists, and he will make his first million.

I still hope Cold fusion (and may be Rossi himself) is genuine, some universities have seen unexplained milliwatts of energy and the NASA on his side declared it useless (this is what I found on their website).

Please bring us relevant and verified information on this thread not ridiculous interviews unverifiable like the oilprice one. there should be somewhere after so many months of Rossi media presence.

Absolutely! Yes Rossi can build ANYTHING HE WANTS in the US without a Patent, without Certification AND without telling anyone! THEN he can ship the parts overseas to have them assembled and even sold!
No one cares except for a few jealous people who think they should have some rights to his ideas.

If you think Rossi is going to take any money from anyone without a product, I'm sure you are mistaken. This would surly be a death sentence to his product and likely prison for him. Do you really think he would even try that?

The efficiency issue is another problem people have in comprehension, Rossi states a COP > 6, but that is not a set value. The actual COP is dependent on the use and anyone who understands Rossi's claim. In an application where the demand for heat never stopped, a COP > 1000 would be likely.
Used in a typical hot water heater of 50 gallons where the unit must turn off every few hours is where you would get a COP >6 or less.

So did the remark for NASA that "cold fusion is useless" come before or after the remark from NASA that "cold fusion is the new future energy source"?