FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[Rosemary Ainslie]

@Everyone:
More good news on the radar!  Defkalion is beginning to release details of their third party testing by reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. 

Here is an excerpt:

DGT plans to have a full working prototype ready by July 2012
One license per country will be available to potential licensees
40.5 million Euros is the license fee for a factory capable of producing 300,000 Hyperion units annually.

DGT states, “Defkalion has conducted third party tests on its core technology by internationally recognized and reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. Today, there is solid, unambiguous evidence confirming our technology. We are at the dawn of a new era of clean, inexpensive, limitless renewable energy.”

The article can be found at the following link:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/defkalion-green-technologies-communicates-with-interested-parties/

When it rains good news, IT POURS!!!


GET EXCITED!!!

Chess 

Chess that's indeed really, really good news.  WOW.  My concern - not sure that it's valid - is that this also sounds a bit 'monopolistic'.  Why only 'one' producer per country.  Isn't that somewhat 'agin' our monopolist concerns?  In any event.  The 'real truth' as MileHigh puts it - is that this is something less than  75 days from fruition.  And as bad as my math is - that's the countdown to FINALLY attesting to the reality of over unity.

I'm sure that those of us who are anxious to decouple from our grid suppliers - will indeed look forward to this.  And those of us who are not anxious to decouple will be excited for different reasons.  Take cover guys.  I think MileHigh and TK will need to post again.  But there's also the thin hope that they've exhausted their arguments. 

Well done Chess.  As ever, you're our harbinger and angel.  The bearer of glad tidings - to put a biblical 'spin' on things.  LOL

kindest as ever,
Rosie

[fuzzytomcat]

@Everyone:
More good news on the radar!  Defkalion is beginning to release details of their third party testing by reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. 

Here is an excerpt:

DGT plans to have a full working prototype ready by July 2012
One license per country will be available to potential licensees
40.5 million Euros is the license fee for a factory capable of producing 300,000 Hyperion units annually.

DGT states, “Defkalion has conducted third party tests on its core technology by internationally recognized and reputable private and public organizations from Europe and America. Today, there is solid, unambiguous evidence confirming our technology. We are at the dawn of a new era of clean, inexpensive, limitless renewable energy.”

The article can be found at the following link:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/defkalion-green-technologies-communicates-with-interested-parties/

When it rains good news, IT POURS!!!


GET EXCITED!!!

Chess 

Howdy all,

Chess just as a reminder of sorts, that lead paint can't be sold or used anymore .... that being said.

I doubt that the process of getting a UL listing ( Underwriters Laboratory ) http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/  and/or  a CSA ( Canadian Standards Association ) http://www.csa.ca/cm/ca/en/home from the testing and evaluation of the device prior to any sales or installations in the United States and Canada possibly world wide.

This usually takes fourteen units of the item or device getting a listing and the money for the for the approved testing agency to give the listing for the product, this is a requirement through all insurance companies whom give coverage for anywhere the item or product can be installed like a home, business or industry without exception.

This process can take years all it takes is one failure in any area of testing for a life safety issue and it goes back to the place of manufacture for corrections and resubmitting the item again until approval, this can go on over and over again. If my memory is correct the microwave oven took over a year for the first one. The military use if any is somewhat different they can do what they want as the general public is not involved and insurance claims not usually a issue maybe some cover ups are.

A device or item not having a UL or CSA listing and is not 100% safe in all respects will never be sold or be installed without some type of testing agency certification, this is a US State and Federal law insurance company driven.

Cheers,
FuzzyTomCat

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Howdy all,

Chess just as a reminder of sorts, that lead paint can't be sold or used anymore .... that being said.

I doubt that the process of getting a UL listing ( Underwriters Laboratory ) http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/  and/or  a CSA ( Canadian Standards Association ) http://www.csa.ca/cm/ca/en/home from the testing and evaluation of the device prior to any sales or installations in the United States and Canada possibly world wide.

This usually takes fourteen units of the item or device getting a listing and the money for the for the approved testing agency to give the listing for the product, this is a requirement through all insurance companies whom give coverage for anywhere the item or product can be installed like a home, business or industry without exception.

This process can take years all it takes is one failure in any area of testing for a life safety issue and it goes back to the place of manufacture for corrections and resubmitting the item again until approval, this can go on over and over again. If my memory is correct the microwave oven took over a year for the first one. The military use if any is somewhat different they can do what they want as the general public is not involved and insurance claims not usually a issue maybe some cover ups are.

A device or item not having a UL or CSA listing and is not 100% safe in all respects will never be sold or be installed without some type of testing agency certification, this is a US State and Federal law insurance company driven.

Cheers,
FuzzyTomCat

Howdy fellow experimentalist and members and readers here whom are may be interested.

With the utmost respect to this post - there is nothing in the whole wide world to stop me or you or anyone at all from designing a new generator and selling it - that boasts a greater efficiency than is available on the market.  In the unlikely event that the generator is shown to emit gamma rays then it would need considerable safety requirements.  Failing which, it would need to be built in line with existing acceptable safety standards.  And the Defkalion group and Rossi et al - would need to be considerably less than competent if they were promoting something that emits gamma rays without the required safety.  Fortunately they don't have those toxic emissions.  Therefore there are no undue licensing procedures anywhere - globally - or locally.

Rosie Pose
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[fuzzytomcat]

Howdy members and guests,

From what I understand this device is a "Fuel Cell" there is testing in the United States for a certification of compliance required for a permitted or licensed installation.

http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/                         ( Fuel Cells )
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/requirements/     ( Sample and Information Requirements )
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/tests/                 ( Tests conducted )

This is why I said that a device or item not having a UL or CSA listing and is not 100% safe in all respects will never be sold or be installed without some type of testing agency certification, this is a US State and Federal law insurance company driven.

The only option is to do it your self, without any installation permits or certifications and if something happens like a fire, toxic fluid spill, electrocution or death .... your insurance coverage you have will not cover the damages because of no installation permits or certification of compliance of the device or item that caused the type of problematic failure or death. This is in your insurance policy and believe me insurance companies do not want to pay out claims and will find any reason not to .... including their fine print you don't read.

I did my legal requirement to inform the required .... from this point, do what you want it's not my problem now. 

Cheers,
FuzzyTomCat

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Howdy indeed.  And howdy howdy howdy to all. 

Howdy members and guests,

From what I understand this device is a "Fuel Cell" there is testing in the United States for a certification of compliance required for a permitted or licensed installation.

http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/                         ( Fuel Cells )
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/requirements/     ( Sample and Information Requirements )
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/industries/energy/alternative/fuelcells/tests/                 ( Tests conducted )

This is why I said that a device or item not having a UL or CSA listing and is not 100% safe in all respects will never be sold or be installed without some type of testing agency certification, this is a US State and Federal law insurance company driven.

The only option is to do it your self, without any installation permits or certifications and if something happens like a fire, toxic fluid spill, electrocution or death .... your insurance coverage you have will not cover the damages because of no installation permits or certification of compliance of the device or item that caused the type of problematic failure or death. This is in your insurance policy and believe me insurance companies do not want to pay out claims and will find any reason not to .... including their fine print you don't read.

I did my legal requirement to inform the required .... from this point, do what you want it's not my problem now. 

Cheers,
FuzzyTomCat

Again.  With the utmost respect to this poster - it is clear from the links provided that the safety requirements related to fuel cells are clearly defined.  And indeed, it is NOT your problem - with respect.  The onus is on those producing that cell to comply to the required specifications.  And I'd put my money on it that they've done that much.  But if you DO have any residual concerns - perhaps you'd like to write to Rossi and to those at Defkalion and advise them to comply.  In the unlikely event that they've overlooked such an elementary requirement.

Kindest regards,
Rosie Pose