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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

MileHigh

Lumen:

Were we hopefully have common ground is this:  You saw how there are millions of tonnes of nickel produced each year.  And of course we know that hydrogen is readily available.  So if this is all real, it will indeed be exciting, very exciting.

I don't buy all of the "Big Oil MIB" cliches.  In simple terms if the energy sector represents say 5% of the economy, that means that 95% of the economy consists of energy consumers.  There is just no way that this can be stopped if it is real.  If you run a multi billion dollar corporation producing aluminum, and your energy costs represent 80% of your production costs (the aluminum industry consumes more electrical energy than any other entity in the US economy) and there is a way for you to get those energy costs reduced by 75%, you better believe it that it will happen.  The free market will ensure that it happens.

So if it's real the real solution is LENR reactors replacing nukes.  So no changes to the electrical distribution infrastructure, just new power plants.  This concept of small home-based power plants would just be an intermediate step.  The read deal will be power production on an industrial scale.

It would become the age of the Jetson's.  It would be amazing if the cost of energy dropped by a factor of 10.  You could turn the desert green and feed the world.

MileHigh

gravityblock

Quote from: MileHigh on April 02, 2012, 09:30:30 PM
Photons are normally considered massless particles Rosemary, that's the point.  No surprise that you won't even acknowledge my points about the normal, standard,  universally understood frame of reference for these discussions.  No concessions from you.

But a big concession is looming on another thread.

MileHigh

Quote from: MileHigh on April 04, 2012, 11:52:45 AM
Gravityblock:

The problem is that these are your personal theories and I am going to assume that you don't have anything to back them up.  You cannot extend the concept of electromagnetic radiation to the weak nuclear force.  From what I understand the strong force and the weak force can be compared to gravitational force, but only acting at very short distances, and they are not comparable to electromagnetic radiation.  There is no "wavelength" or "intensity" or propagation through a medium associated with the weak force to make the weak force analogous to EM radiation.  Your comparison is not valid in my opinion.

MileHigh

Photons are not massless inside superconductors.  Photons are slowed down inside superconductors and behave as if they have real mass.  My comparison to the weak nuclear force with the electromagnetic force is valid according to a Nobel Prize Winner and the modern theory on electroweak interactions. The weak nuclear force is compared to the electromagnetic forces and photons inside superconductors.  Short-range force. Heavy particles. Sound familiar? It should. Those are exactly the properties of electromagnetic forces and photons inside superconductors. The modern theory of electroweak interactions is heavily invested in the analogy between what happens to photons inside superconductors and the observed properties of W and Z bosons in the cosmos. According to this part of the Core theory, the entity we perceive as empty space (the Grid) is a super conductor.  This is not my own personal theory and you shouldn't be assuming something which you know nothing of.

Frank Wilczek is a Nobel Prize Winner and he is considered one of the world’s most eminent theoretical physicists. He is known, among other things, for the discovery of asymptotic freedom and the development of quantum chromodynamics (QCD).  He's also an official advisor to CERN and to Daedalus.  According to Wilczek and the standard model, photons inside superconductors are slowed-down and behave as particles with real mass.

Below is a quote from Frank Wilczek in his book titled, "The Lightness of Being: Mass, Ether, and Unification of the Forces".  Also, Since photons acquire real mass inside superconductors and the W & Z bosons are heavy particles with similar properties, then they will have a much lower velocity and momentum without having the full penetrating force, thus the term 'low level gamma radiation'.     

Quote from: Frank Wilczek
The model Nature gives us for making force-carrying particles heavy is superconductivity. For inside superconductors, photons become heavy! Here’s the essential idea. Photons are moving disturbances in electric and magnetic fields. In a superconductor, electrons respond vigorously to electric and magnetic fields. The electrons’ attempt to restore equilibrium is so vigorous that they exert a kind of drag on the fields’ motion. Instead of moving at the usual speed of light, therefore, inside a superconductor photons move more slowly. It’s as if they’ve acquired inertia. When you study the equations, you find that the slowed-down photons inside a superconductor obey the same equations of motion as would particles with real mass.
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Cosmic Superconductivity: Electroweak Layer

The weak interaction is a short-range force. The fields responsible for this force, the W and Z, are similar in many ways to the electromagnetic field. The particles that arise as disturbances in these fields (the W and Z particles) resemble photons. Like photons, they are bosons. Like photons, they respond to chargesâ€"not electric charges to be sure, but what we’ve called green and purple charges, with similar physical properties. Their most obvious difference from photons is that W and Z are heavy particles. (Each weighs about as much as one hundred protons.)

Short-range force. Heavy particles. Sound familiar? It should. Those are exactly the properties of electromagnetic forces and photons inside superconductors. The modern theory of electroweak interactions is heavily invested in the analogy between what happens to photons inside superconductors and the observed properties of W and Z bosons in the cosmos. According to this part of the Core theory, the entity we perceive as empty spaceâ€"the Gridâ€"is a super conductor. Even though the conceptual and mathematical parallels run very deep, Grid superconductivity differs from conventional superconductivity in four main ways:

Occurrence: Conventional superconductivity requires special materials and low temperatures. Even the new “high temperature” superconductors max out at less than 200 Kelvin (room temperature is about 300 Kelvin). Grid superconductivity is everywhere, and has never been observed to break down. Theoretically, it should persist up to about 1016 Kelvin.

Scale: The photon mass inside a conventional superconductor is 10â€"11 proton masses, or less. The W and Z masses are about 102 proton masses.

What Flows: The super-currents of conventional superconductivity are flows of electric charge. They cause electromagnetic fields to become short range, and photons to acquire mass. The super-currents of Grid superconductivity are correlated flows of much less familiar types of charge: purple weak charge and hypercharge. W and Z fields can be generated by those flows, so the forces that W and Z generate become short-range, and the W and Z particles acquire mass.

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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: MileHigh on April 15, 2012, 08:33:52 PM
This is from the Wikipedia entry on the Energy Catalyzer:

That Coulomb barrier is what I referred to a few days ago where I said that the hydrogen nucleus and the nickel nucleus have to heading towards each other with unbelievably high speed to overcome the electrostatic repulsion. 

Note what they state:  "In particular, the Coulomb barrier for the claimed fusion reaction is so high that it is unsurpassable anywhere in the known universe, including the interior of stars."

Myself as a lay person, and many other nuclear scientists, don't believe that there is some "other way" to work around this fundamental problem.  If the whole thing "blows up" and two years from now Rossi and Defkalion are disgraced names that are no better than Mylow, it will be because of the Coulomb barrier.

MileHigh

The work around is by using the weak nuclear force to exploit the superconductivity of space along with the unknown Coulomb forces.  The known repulsive Coulomb force between like charges operates over a long-range like the electromagnetic force, while the unknown attractive Coulomb force between like charges operates over a short-range like the weak nuclear force.  Between opposite charges, then there is an unknown repulsive Coulomb force operating over a short-range.

BCS theory, proposed by Bardeen, Cooper, and Schrieffer (BCS) in 1957, is the first microscopic theory of superconductivity since its discovery in 1911. The theory describes superconductivity as a microscopic effect caused by a condensation of pairs of electrons into a boson-like state. The theory is also used in nuclear physics to describe the pairing interaction between nucleons in an atomic nucleus.  BCS theory starts from the assumption that there is some attraction between electrons, which can overcome the Coulomb repulsion.

There are both attractive and repulsive coulomb forces between charges as suggested by the BCS Theory on superconductivity and the works of Ioannis Xydous in his publication titled "The secret of the Electron-Positron pair".

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: MileHigh on April 22, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
You could turn the desert green and feed the world.

MileHigh
we can do this now... instead we choose to allow our leaders to spend trillions building instruments of warfare and destruction. the future we have to look forward to is limited and partially ruinous warfare... with or without LENR.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

gravityblock

Rossi claims that the radio frequency generator allows the forces that would normally prevent the nuclear process from taking place (Coulomb forces) to work for you, and not against you.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.