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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

sparks

   I will again pose the question about the preoccupation of scientists with the fusion process.  The casmir effect (hope I spelled that correctly) is real.  Tom Bearden has the mathmatics (and also the dare I say lost mathmatics excluded by Lenz when constraining his work to closed circuits)  which mathmatically supports the existence of vacuum fluctuations at every point in the Universe.  Casmir provides us with the experimental validation of Bearden's mathmatical therom.  And Rossi has built a converter.  So what's the big deal besides the politics of the situation.  (oh never mind I think I just answered my own question)
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chessnyt

Quote from: sparks on June 24, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
   I will again pose the question about the preoccupation of scientists with the fusion process.  The casmir effect (hope I spelled that correctly) is real.  Tom Bearden has the mathmatics (and also the dare I say lost mathmatics excluded by Lenz when constraining his work to closed circuits)  which mathmatically supports the existence of vacuum fluctuations at every point in the Universe.  Casmir provides us with the experimental validation of Bearden's mathmatical therom.  And Rossi has built a converter.  So what's the big deal besides the politics of the situation.  (oh never mind I think I just answered my own question)
@Sparks:
What's the big deal?  Oh, well I suppose...it is...EVERYTHING!  This "converter" (Rossi's E-Cat and other advanced LENR devices) changes absolutely everything and not just politically speaking.  Here's a few things that makes this a BIG DEAL:

o   It changes our fuel suppliers and this is a VERY BIG DEAL.
o   It changes our utilities industries.
o   It changes our pollution problem.
o   It changes the stock market values.
o   It changes our dependence on foreign oil.
o   It bankrupts or severely destroys nations that currently export oil as their number one export (Consider mainly looking at the middle East and Persian Gulf regions).
o   It changes the transportation industry.
o   It changes the cost of living used in C.O.L.A. analysis.
o   It changes all company's costs to produce goods and provide services making them more affordable.
o   It opens up a slew of new jobs and employment opportunities not only producing the technology, but also retrofitting the existing technologies worldwide as well.
o   It decreases the motive for waging wars based on coveting other nation's resources to the point of murder and plunder.
o   It decreases the amount of money received by corrupt political officials thus leading to the repealing of corrupt legislation in which only the corrupt have benefited from in the past.
o   It provides the means and opportunity for the masses to finally (or once again) become self reliant if they so desire to.
o   It wipes out a huge tax base that corrupt governments have misused as a secondary tax system to generate addition revenues (gas taxes tacked onto fuel prices at the pump).

So as you can see, this "fusion process" really doesn't change much  ::)


Regards,

Chess

gravityblock

Quote from: sparks on June 24, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
   I will again pose the question about the preoccupation of scientists with the fusion process.  The casmir effect (hope I spelled that correctly) is real.  Tom Bearden has the mathmatics (and also the dare I say lost mathmatics excluded by Lenz when constraining his work to closed circuits)  which mathmatically supports the existence of vacuum fluctuations at every point in the Universe.  Casmir provides us with the experimental validation of Bearden's mathmatical therom.  And Rossi has built a converter.  So what's the big deal besides the politics of the situation.  (oh never mind I think I just answered my own question)

The Casimir Force can be both attractive and repulsive.  This force isn't caused by vacuum fluctuations, but is due to light decelerating while interacting with the free electrons or nucleuses of the metal which creates a force. This observation explains why on two parallel uncharged plates separated by short distance, appears the attractive Casimir effect. When we apply a voltage difference this turns to a repulsive Casimir force.  Below is the equation for the complete Casimir Force.  I'm not disputing that all of space is filled with a sea of particles which are charged, or, in field language, when a charged field has a nonzero vacuum expectation value.  However, what I am disputing, is the "Casimir Force arises from those vacuum fluctuations".  If the vacuum fluctuations isn't responsible for this force, then Casmir doesn't provide us with the experimental validation of Bearden's mathematical theorem.

Gravock
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sparks

Quote from: chessnyt on June 24, 2012, 03:04:52 PM
@Sparks:
What's the big deal?  Oh, well I suppose...it is...EVERYTHING!  This "converter" (Rossi's E-Cat and other advanced LENR devices) changes absolutely everything and not just politically speaking.  Here's a few things that makes this a BIG DEAL:

o   It changes our fuel suppliers and this is a VERY BIG DEAL.
o   It changes our utilities industries.
o   It changes our pollution problem.
o   It changes the stock market values.
o   It changes our dependence on foreign oil.
o   It bankrupts or severely destroys nations that currently export oil as their number one export (Consider mainly looking at the middle East and Persian Gulf regions).
o   It changes the transportation industry.
o   It changes the cost of living used in C.O.L.A. analysis.
o   It changes all company's costs to produce goods and provide services making them more affordable.
o   It opens up a slew of new jobs and employment opportunities not only producing the technology, but also retrofitting the existing technologies worldwide as well.
o   It decreases the motive for waging wars based on coveting other nation's resources to the point of murder and plunder.
o   It decreases the amount of money received by corrupt political officials thus leading to the repealing of corrupt legislation in which only the corrupt have benefited from in the past.
o   It provides the means and opportunity for the masses to finally (or once again) become self reliant if they so desire to.
o   It wipes out a huge tax base that corrupt governments have misused as a secondary tax system to generate addition revenues (gas taxes tacked onto fuel prices at the pump).

So as you can see, this "fusion process" really doesn't change much  ::)


Regards,

Chess

     The reality of the situation is that this device or any other device that involves anamolous heat gains will just contribute to the rate of enviromental destruction by man.  The water vapor is increasing in the atmosphere due to water's ability to convert infrared radiation to heat.  As it gets hotter more water vapor and it gets hotter and more water vapor.  This fusion process will be used ultimately to heat the atmosphere.  What is needed is an endothermic reaction utilizing the existing heat in water vapor to drive a neuclear transition that is endothermic therefore sequestering atmospheric heat in atomic structure.  This way we take large amounts of prexisting excessive thermal energy unleashed in the enviroment and sequester it in atomic binding energy or  useful chemical compounds like fresh water. 
    I do agree with Cheesnyt that this is a very important development and must be followed and kept in the light.  It will be interesting to see the corporate owned scientific communities reaction.  The scramble for control of the raw materials to build them and the governement licensing and taxing authorities who descend on it like a pack of vultures. Even more interesting is what the public will be allowed to learn of the implementation of this new technology.   I would also hope that Dr.Rossi continue with his research and figure out how to use his device to so something more than heat water.  It appears the sun does a great job of that already.
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Gwandau

sparks,

the earths climate fluctuates quite naturally like it have done for many millions of years.

The whole planetary system is self balancing, the more vapor in the atmosphere converting sunlight into heat,
the more clouds are formed, cooling the whole thing back to balance.

The recent period of increased temperature on earth is nothing new, it happens regularly with intervals
well known by scientists in the historical geology field. Greenland has been green many times before,
and the polar bear have been forced to move closer to the poles each time.

Global warming is not a hoax, but the cause behind such changes have been modified to fit the schemes of the IPCC,
telling us that it is caused by human activities.
There are actually not many scientists able to present any signs suggesting such a scenario, contrary to what IPCC tries
to impose upon us. Most of the climate scientists just have decided to back up this theory, without directly dealing with
the research behind it.

Of the two thousand so called scientists said to back this up, only about four hundred are academic scientists,
the rest are political lobbyists connected to the IPCC. Of the four hundred real scientists said to back this scenario up,
many have demanded to be disassociated from the list in protest to the assumptions stated in the IPCC global warming report,
but only one of them have succeded to get his name off that list, when he threatend the IPCC to drag the whole thing to court.

You must have heard about the so called "Climate-Gate" scandal, where two journalists exposed the two head scientists behind
it all to be adding false information to enhance their theory about man induced global warming. It is well known by climat scientists
that the global temperature started to deviate from being parallel to human industrial growth in the early 90:s, and that it never was
parallell to the industrial growth between 1900 and 1960, a period of intense industrial growth where a clear connection should be
present if man made global warming was true.

On the other hand, there has been a clear connection between the activity of the sun and the resulting formation of clouds on earth
wich in turn affects the temperature. The physicist Henrik Svensmark at Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen have proved that
the formation of clouds are dependent upon the electric charge value of the sulphuric acid particles in the atmosphere, making the water
vapor attach to the charged particles, thus making the formation of clouds possible. Without those charged particles, there would be
no clouds in the atmosphere, only water vapor.

The sulphuric acid particles get their charges from being exposed to cosmic radiation, and the weaker magnetosphere shielding earths
atmosphere, the more charged particles.

So adding to this discovery is the fascinating conclusion that the more active solar flares, the bigger gets the magnetosphere reaching
out from the sun, in turn resulting in a more effective shielding from cosmic rays.

This means that when the solar flare activity is high, the shield is strong, decreasing the amount of cosmic rays into earths atmosphere,
in turn decreasing the degree of cloud formation, which as a result causes a global warming.

And when the solar activity is low, lots of cloud formation, cooling the planet down.

Now, what is really interesting is that Henrik Svensmark have proved scientifically that the temperature on earth have been directly
following the solar flare activity without deviation.

But his discovery was very unwelcome and supressed by IPCC during the international climate conference in Copenhagen 2009,
since his discovery directly threatend the climate agenda in progress, and his discovery has been supressed since then, since no one
want to miss any fundings for their scientific research by opposing the main agenda of the IPCC.

So I would say, sparks, that your worries about any global heat gains caused by the e-cats is far fetched to say the least.
Humanity is good at polluting the atmosphere. But warming it up puts us in a totally different legaue, where we dwindle into nothing.

The sun in combination with its solar flares is what causes global warming.

Gwandau